Unbelievable: shelter asks for chokes but won't take prong!

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Stacia Porter

Discussion Starter · Apr 24, 2006

I just called my local no kill shelter about donating some old blankets and towels. I also have an extra prong that my aunt just gave me. Their website asks for donations of training equipment including choke collars, but they told me they can't accept the prong b/c it's "inhumane." WHAT? You can use a collar proven to break the bones of the larnyx, a collar which can become imbedded in the animal's skin, a collar which is known to injure animals, but you won't use a prong? I'm not a huge fan of corrective collars in general, but if I have ot use one I'm sure as heck not gonna use the choke! I've used my prong only a few times...but still. I just didn't appreciate the implication that I'm a cruel dog owner...

I'm just shaking my head at these people. They actually require their large breed adoptions to leave the shelter on a choke! URGHH!

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Connie Sutherland

· #2 · Apr 24, 2006

Re: Unbelievable: shelter asks for chokes but won't take pro

Stacia Porter said:
I just called my local no kill shelter about donating some old blankets and towels. I also have an extra prong that my aunt just gave me. Their website asks for donations of training equipment including choke collars, but they told me they can't accept the prong b/c it's "inhumane." WHAT? You can use a collar proven to break the bones of the larnyx, a collar which can become imbedded in the animal's skin, a collar which is known to injure animals, but you won't use a prong? I'm not a huge fan of corrective collars in general, but if I have ot use one I'm sure as heck not gonna use the choke! I've used my prong only a few times...but still. I just didn't appreciate the implication that I'm a cruel dog owner...I'm just shaking my head at these people. They actually require their large breed adoptions to leave the shelter on a choke! URGHH!

It takes many many years to change policy at a large organization.....the people actually on the ground can't make decisions like this for themselves, unfortunately. Good for you that you are donating blankets and towels!

Those things you list seem to be almost always in the top slot on their wish lists, followed by food, medical supplies, and office supplies. At least, that's the case here.

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Stacia Porter

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 24, 2006

Re: Unbelievable: shelter asks for chokes but won't take pro

It takes many many years to change policy at a large organization.....the people actually on the ground can't male decisions like this themselves, unfortunately. Good for you that you are donating blankets and towels!

Those things you list seem to be almost always in the top slot on their wish lists, followed by food, medical supplies, and office supplies. At least, that's the case here.

Connie, they also need medical, food, and office supplies here. I handmake the blankies out of scraps of yarn left over from other projects. I give money to our shelters, as well, and do what I can to steer people who ask me about buying a dog/cat to the local shelters and rescues. When Sam's club has dog food on sale I pick it up to donate, too.
It wasn't so much that they declined the offer as HOW tehy declined it: very sharp and saying the collars are inhumane. You would think if they have taken that stand they would also not use the chokes...just sort of angered me a bit.

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Mike Schoonbrood

· #4 · Apr 24, 2006

I've been holding onto perfectly good food intending on giving it to a shelter, just needa figure out who wants it lol.

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Connie Sutherland

· #5 · Apr 24, 2006

Re: Unbelievable: shelter asks for chokes but won't take pro

Stacia Porter said:
It takes many many years to change policy at a large organization.....the people actually on the ground can't male decisions like this themselves, unfortunately. Good for you that you are donating blankets and towels!

Those things you list seem to be almost always in the top slot on their wish lists, followed by food, medical supplies, and office supplies. At least, that's the case here.

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Connie, they also need medical, food, and office supplies here. I handmake the blankies out of scraps of yarn left over from other projects. I give money to our shelters, as well, and do what I can to steer people who ask me about buying a dog/cat to the local shelters and rescues. When Sam's club has dog food on sale I pick it up to donate, too.
It wasn't so much that they declined the offer as HOW tehy declined it: very sharp and saying the collars are inhumane. You would think if they have taken that stand they would also not use the chokes...just sort of angered me a bit.

I can give you an authoritative and not too long article about collars you could print a few of and include with your next donations! :wink:

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Connie Sutherland

· #6 · Apr 24, 2006

collars

Stacia,

Scroll all the way down to metal chokes, then to prongs, right under that, and see if that's what you want to print out for your shelter.

I believe they need chokes, with the unknown dogs they take in (often because of aggression), but they could stand a little education about prongs. JMO!

http://www.boxerworld.com/training/collars/

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Stacia Porter

Discussion Starter · #7 · Apr 24, 2006

Re: collars

Connie Sutherland said:
Stacia,

Scroll all the way down to metal chokes, then to prongs, right under that, and see if that's what you want to print out for your shelter.

I believe they need chokes, with the unknown dogs they take in (often because of aggression), but they could stand a little education about prongs. JMO!

http://www.boxerworld.com/training/collars/

Connie, thank so much! That is an awesome article!!!! Speaking of training, I have to go remove a sheppy puppy from his sit-stay at our dining room table (my girls are having lunch) grrrrrrrrrr! It's sad when they start using training against us :?

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Bob Scott

· #8 · Apr 24, 2006

I wish I knew about the prong collar 30yrs ago. My then heavy handed yank and crank training, along with a lack of patience, ruined a good dog. I had to retire him from competition because of problems with the jumps. His neck would go out due to my being a butt head.
Here's the article I keep in my save file.
http://www.cobankopegi.com/prong.html

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Kristen Cabe

· #9 · Apr 26, 2006

While in Charleston this past weekend, we stayed with one of Adam's Air Force buddies and his wife. They have a dog that is in desperate need of some training, but they are the type of people who "don't want to hurt him. We just want him to behave." They had a choke collar for him, but they've never actually corrected him with anything more than a stern voice and canned air. The dog is afraid of the noise the canned air makes and will listen if someone has it in their hand, but as soon as that person isn't looking, he takes off. I had taken my prong collar to show to them, and both of them immediately said, "That looks really painful" when I showed it to them, but once I had explained how it worked and actually put it on Adam's friend's leg and let him feel it as opposed to the choke chain, they changed their tune really quickly! Long story short, they bought a prong and intend to use it. They were basically just happy that the dog was no longer choking and gagging and pulling against it like he did with his flat collar and of course the choke chain. They are still new to the idea of actually using the leash and collar to give a correction if the dog doesn't listen, but once they're used to using the collar just to be able to take him on walks and out to the beach, it shouldn't be hard to show them how to use it for actual corrections without them thinking they're hurting him, too.

If it were me, I'd take my prong along and as soon as I got the new girl outside the building, I'd put it on her and toss the choke chain in the trash, so that they can see. :twisted:

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