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Recently (last week) there was a LEO who's canine partner died after being left in the car during training without the proper precautions being taken. Since then changes have been put into place to try and prevent this from happening again. Was just wondering what if any protocol do some of the LEO on this forum have to follow? I really feel bad for this guy but just wanted to see what guidelines was out there.
 

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Not being a LEO I can't speak from my own personal experiences on patrol... but I train with LEO's 4 times a week so have some insight into what the guys I've seen around my area do... basically on the training field the ignition is always on, the back seat of their Tahoe or Crown Vic is caged in aluminum for the dogs by American Aluminum, Inc., n their hoods are up to keep everything under the hood cooler too since Florida's hot as hell. I don't remember if they have something to keep the ignition on without a key in there, but I assume they do.

Now, personally, I just got the Chilly Dog system installed this morning because I am paranoid about my dogs having problems in the Florida heat, I'm out there training longer than the LEO's are since I'm the one running around in the bite suit or being educated by the trainer as to what I should be doing with "a dog like this", but they obviously also have their patrols so get more vehicle-time than I do.... not sure how often the vehicles are left unattended or what length of time... but anyway. The system I installed (and I had a thread about this going not long ago) is something used by some (many? I don't know) departments.... has the following features:

- Auto start the vehicle if interior temp gets over 79 degrees (programmable temp) and runs for either 12, 24 or 60 minutes

- If something fails and the interior doesn't cool down, at 96 degrees (also programmable temp, I wanna set it to 92 degrees or maybe 90) the horn sounds, the windows drop and a remote pager beeps and vibrates up to a mile range... if you go out of range with the pager then the pager also alerts saying you lost signal to the vehicle

- Special switch that lets you keep the engine running (for 12, 24 or 60 minutes) after pulling out the key so you don't have to wait for the temp to creep up before the engine starts again, useful for short stops running into a store without turning off the car. If the vehicle isn't running already, then pushing the button starts the vehicle (for 12, 24 or 60 minutes) without needing the key. Obviously to shift gears you need to push the brake, if the brake is depressed without a key in the ignition (attempted theft) then the engine dies.

I've tested the system out n I love it -- www.ICCubed.net is where I got it, but from what I'm told by other LEO's is that some departments are reluctant to spend $1000 per vehicle to have something like that implemented, so go with cheaper options that basically keep the engine permanently on with no failsafes if the engine were to die.

I am covered in every situation except for the car battery dying -- n in theory if the car battery is totally 100% dead then the pager I carry on my belt will alert me that it's no longer receiving a signal from the vehicle. I think $1000 is a small price to pay for the almost guaranteed welfare of a K9, but I'm not up to speed on department budgets and politics lol. I know if I were a k9 officer I would install a system like this in my veicle out of my own pocket if I had to -- but, I'm not a LEO, n I still installed a system like that outta my own pocket :)
 

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Mike Schoonbrood said:
I've tested the system out n I love it -- www.ICCubed.net is where I got it, but from what I'm told by other LEO's is that some departments are reluctant to spend $1000 per vehicle to have something like that implemented, so go with cheaper options that basically keep the engine permanently on with no failsafes if the engine were to die.
Do folks have have calculators? Idling an engine is way expensive, you'd eat up that $1,000 quick. I'm from MN, the land of idling winter engines, I know. :lol:
 

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Mike sounds like something worth looking into. I remember the thread, just wondered if Departments left it up to the individual or had some policy in place. Just wondering thats all! It hasn't been all that hot here yet highest I think of 85. I'll look into the system you talked about.
 

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Patrick Cheatham said:
Mike sounds like something worth looking into. I remember the thread, just wondered if Departments left it up to the individual or had some policy in place. Just wondering thats all! It hasn't been all that hot here yet highest I think of 85. I'll look into the system you talked about.
we have basically all the same stuff mike mentioned, just different brands.
 

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Our cruisers run from the time the Trooper goes in service to the time he goes out of service. All cars are equipped with heat monitoring devices that will roll down the windows (which are screened), flash the lights and sound the horn. We've been fortunate (the sound you hear is me knocking on wood) the devices have always worked for us when needed. It costs about $400.00 per car. Since the vehicle is always running, there is an anti-theft mechanism installed as well. I won't discuss how that works. I'm sure you understand.

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David Frost said:
Our cruisers run from the time the Trooper goes in service to the time he goes out of service. All cars are equipped with heat monitoring devices that will roll down the windows (which are screened), flash the lights and sound the horn. We've been fortunate (the sound you hear is me knocking on wood) the devices have always worked for us when needed. It costs about $400.00 per car. Since the vehicle is always running, there is an anti-theft mechanism installed as well. I won't discuss how that works. I'm sure you understand.

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And your purpose fo an anti-theft device in a K9 unit is........ :D :D
Seems a bit redundent. JKN of course! :wink:
 

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Bob Scott said:
David Frost said:
Our cruisers run from the time the Trooper goes in service to the time he goes out of service. All cars are equipped with heat monitoring devices that will roll down the windows (which are screened), flash the lights and sound the horn. We've been fortunate (the sound you hear is me knocking on wood) the devices have always worked for us when needed. It costs about $400.00 per car. Since the vehicle is always running, there is an anti-theft mechanism installed as well. I won't discuss how that works. I'm sure you understand.

DFrost
And your purpose fo an anti-theft device in a K9 unit is........ :D :D
Seems a bit redundent. JKN of course! :wink:
there is a cage in the car. dog couldn't even get to a guy who tried to get in my car. there is a gate, but i always keep mine closed. the two times i left it open, the dog turned on the siren.

our cars just have the ignition override switch which is what mike explained allows you to keep the engine running with the key out of the igintion...
 

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I wouldn't want to be the one to play russian roulette with a K9 cruiser. Given the luck of most criminals, they'd pick the one with the gate open.
Hah, I can just see the headline:
LOCAL MAN MAULED AFTER BREAKING INTO POLICE CRUISER
Officer: "K-9's Gate Was Open"

:D
 
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