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Who will win the Ringsport War in America?

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Ringsport Wars in America

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Hey pick your ring group you think will win the War in America
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Here is a boxer doing a FR1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6RAIbBiejE&feature=sub

Figured people might need a break from all the drama, although I know good and damn well drink it like water in a desert.



Here is a boxer doing a FR1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6RAIbBiejE&feature=sub

Figured people might need a break from all the drama, although I know good and damn well drink it like water in a desert.
Did you pick the video for it outstanding music.

Why do people put stupid music on their videos? Silence is ok! - The music is stuck in m head ](*,)
Side Note Observation

With the advent of ARF.

French Ringsport in North America has in fact reached it highest point in the odd evolution of the sport here.

ARF has attracted a decent number of Clubs when coupled with Naras Clubs.

These numbers when crunched quick show GROWTH in a short period for French Ringsport in America.

Kudos to the ARF.
Can anyone hear a Nara , " But, BBBBBB But"
Judge; Dominique Piton (France)
Decoys;
Lorent Schlernitzauer (France)
Eduardo Loyola (Puerto Rico USA)
Wade Morrell (Ohio USA)

So who didn't show up ?

Don't know about the field.
There are some very good and qualified decoys in ARF who have worked trials but didn't Wade just get certified as a FR decoy yet he got selected for the championships?

Nothing against the man as I don't know him from Adam and I'm sure he's a nice guy. My question is why did he get selected to decoy a champonship when he hasn't even worked a trial for the organization?
Wade has done other sports at a higher level, AND he was the alternate. Gotta start somewhere right ?



The senior decoy for this weekend's trial was Lorent Schlernitzauer one of the top decoys in the world. I guess some of us are so fascinated by the choice of alternate that they missed this fact and the fact that the judge of the ARF trial, Dominic Pitton ( acknowledged to be one of the foremost ringsport judges/trainers/handlers in the world) will be judging the NARA nationals as well.

The trial was small, but take it from someone who has competed in many large national events: the number of competitors is completely unrelated to the quality of the competition. Actually, my evil, selfish side wants to thank all those not in attendance for giving me a lot of invaluable one on one time to learn from Dominic Pitton and Lorent Schlernitzauer. You guys don't know what you missed but I certainly do! :twisted:

The comment about the Pennswoods "club field" is ludicrous. First, we should all be so lucky to compete on a superb field like this one. Second, and far more important: if a dog can't do it's best work on an unfamiliar field then PLEASE don't call it a working dog. Last, a team doing it's best work will not be at any particular disadvantage against a team that is familiar with the field.

Having had the wonderful opportunity to do Ring 2 dog in white with my young dog this weekend, I can tell you that this ARF final had absolutely nothing to do with dog politics and everything to do with serious competition and the camaraderie that is available to people for who gladly promote the work and the working dog at great personal sacrifice and expense.
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The trial was small, but take it from someone who has competed in many large national events: the number of competitors is completely unrelated to the quality of the competition. Actually, my evil, selfish side wants to thank all those not in attendance for giving me a lot of invaluable one on one time to learn from Dominic Pitton and Lorent Schlernitzauer. You guys don't know what you missed but I certainly do! :twisted:
I hear you! I would've loved to be in a little seminar with those guys. Soak it all up it is a wonderful feeling learning from guys like that for sure.

Margaret Wheeler said:
Having had the wonderful opportunity to do Ring 2 dog in white with my young dog this weekend, I can tell you that this ARF final had absolutely nothing to do with dog politics and everything to do with serious competition and the camaraderie that is available to people for who gladly promote the work and the working dog at great personal sacrifice and expense.
We did the Ring 2 DIW in CT we had a great time doing that I can't wait to trail in a few weeks. Seeing the score written in the book and giving your dog a scratch for a job well done makes all that sacrifice and expense worth it.
I hear you! I would've loved to be in a little seminar with those guys. Soak it all up it is a wonderful feeling learning from guys like that for sure.



We did the Ring 2 DIW in CT we had a great time doing that I can't wait to trail in a few weeks. Seeing the score written in the book and giving your dog a scratch for a job well done makes all that sacrifice and expense worth it.
:D

I have so so so much to learn! My dog (check him out here) carried me through this weekend, but sooner or later I'm going to have to do my share!

Good luck in your upcoming competition Geoff! I probably won't be showing my face on a trial field as a competitor until next spring at the earliest, but my experiences this weekend gave me a big push in the right direction!

Bon chance, mon ami!
What breed is the big brindle mastiff dog in the photo album? Fila?
What breed is the big brindle mastiff dog in the photo album? Fila?
Boer Bol? sp?*

edit: Boerboel
Boer Bol? sp?*

edit: Boerboel
Is it one of Tashi's by any chance? Just wondering, I haven't heard of many involved with both Boerboel AND any sort or Ringsport.

-Cheers
Is it one of Tashi's by any chance? Just wondering, I haven't heard of many involved with both Boerboel AND any sort or Ringsport.

-Cheers

Aye! Her dogs were a big hit with Dominique too; he loves Boerboels!
Aye! Her dogs were a big hit with Dominique too; he loves Boerboels!
Thanks. I've been around a few..boarding and what not and they were the fawn colored ones.
There are some very good and qualified decoys in ARF who have worked trials but didn't Wade just get certified as a FR decoy yet he got selected for the championships?

Nothing against the man as I don't know him from Adam and I'm sure he's a nice guy. My question is why did he get selected to decoy a champonship when he hasn't even worked a trial for the organization?
WHAT PART OF "REPLACEMENT DECOY DONT YOU GET"?
Wade "I believe" has done a SCH National and PSA,and passed his FR decoy certification, so what's the problem with him being a replacement if something happened, please tell??????
I have so so so much to learn! My dog (check him out here) carried me through this weekend, but sooner or later I'm going to have to do my share!
I see a few people there I know Raul and Scott Beebe which series of pictures is your dog? It's all about teamwork. Handler, training decoy and dog. Without the people I work with I would just have an obedient dog. I thank my lucky stars I work with the people I do.

Margaret Wheeler said:
Good luck in your upcoming competition Geoff! I probably won't be showing my face on a trial field as a competitor until next spring at the earliest, but my experiences this weekend gave me a big push in the right direction!

Bon chance, mon ami!
Merci we hope to do well and pass we have a lot of work to do still and we are running out of time to do it. But that is the fun part push the handler push the dog we will see how the stars are aligned that day. If we pass, the whole team passes that's the beauty of it.
Tim, it is called re-direction. They talk about Wade, so they can deflect anyone talking about the two decoys that actually worked the trial. So far, they have had very very high level decoys doing their trials. We will see who shows up for their trial.

Last year I think it was a crippled midget, and some really slow skinny kid.



Geoff, my dog starts at the end of row 7 and goes for like 4 rows. He's the one with the overweight middle aged lady hanging around him. :p
WHAT PART OF "REPLACEMENT DECOY DONT YOU GET"?
Wade "I believe" has done a SCH National and PSA,and passed his FR decoy certification, so what's the problem with him being a replacement if something happened, please tell??????
Tim, I know what a replacement is.. Thanks. He's done nationals in OTHER VENUES NOT FR! It wasn't a PSA or a SchuH championship, it was FR. He hasn't even decoyed a FR trial. Alternate or not, doesn't matter. I don't care if it's Wade. I don't know him from so it's nothing personal. It could be anyone for that matter. The fact is he just got certified a short while ago and got picked to decoy a championship. I don't agree with that. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. As a member of ARF I have every right to ask these questions as does anyone else for that matter and if you don't like it, too bad.

Congrats to everyone who put the time in and competed.
Tim, I know what a replacement is.. Thanks. He's done nationals in OTHER VENUES NOT FR! It wasn't a PSA or a SchuH championship, it was FR. He hasn't even decoyed a FR trial. Alternate or not, doesn't matter. I don't care if it's Wade. I don't know him from so it's nothing personal. It could be anyone for that matter. The fact is he just got certified a short while ago and got picked to decoy a championship. I don't agree with that. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. As a member of ARF I have every right to ask these questions as does anyone else for that matter and if you don't like it, too bad.

Congrats to everyone who put the time in and competed.
You don't have to agree, but the qualifications are there ;-)
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