Ringsport Wars in America

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Jerry Cudahy

Discussion Starter · Sep 17, 2010

Hey pick your ring group you think will win the War in America

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Gerald Guay

· #2 · Sep 17, 2010

Let's hope they both become winners. That is in the near future things calm down and a new era of cooperation will prevail. If the war goes on we will all be losers.

Wars are demoded and a barbarian way of settling differences. They are sometimes necessary but rarely productive. If people put egos aside the wounds will heal.

Vive le Ring Français!

Bart Karmich

· #3 · Sep 17, 2010

Neither. Only the Germans were smart enough to figure out how to control both USCA and GSDCA-WDA so that they can determine what the Americans want and how much it will cost. The French and you could add the French Community of Belgium have proven quite a bit less adept in exploiting NARA, whereas ARF is a complete imposter that won't even admit to challenging NARA which is hardly a big bad wolf. The Dutch and Flemish on the other hand, seem to be content exporting only their dogs and don't seem to care how they might profit from what the Americans do with them afterward.

Did I get it right? I'm new and just learning.

Jesus Alvarez

· #4 · Sep 18, 2010

I'm relatively new to the sport but from what I've seen so far they're both been guilty of questionable practices. There's no winner and the sport suffers.

Mike Lauer

· #5 · Sep 18, 2010

sometimes there is just too much ego to fit in one box
so in america you just start your own
maybe we will end up with 3 or 4 groups

Thomas Barriano

· #6 · Sep 18, 2010

#3

United States Mondio Ring Association
more challenging, less melodrama and you don't have to deal with the French

Jeff Oehlsen

· #7 · Sep 18, 2010

You know, it is the bullshit that I am pointing out. The USA is way too large for one organization, so there really should be three.

The problem is that the sports are being ran by control freaks a lot of the time. They are the ones that want to be in charge, the rest of us, including me, just want to trial.

But NOooooooooooooooooooooooo, they have to do all this retarded shit, and cannot just do the sport.

It is not just the ringsports, look at all the isolationism that is happening in Sch. I do not want to discuss this shit at all, but it just keeps going on and on and on and on.

The nara ARF thing there are no shiny virgins on either side, but it is the crybaby shit and the cheating that irritates the shit out of me.

If I hear of ARF doing the same shit, I guarentee you that I am going to be cracking on them as well. For nara, it is just status quo. I cheat for you, you cheat for me, see you at the championships.

Politics are hard, the focus should be on doing the right thing, however, how often does that happen ? Maybe there should be stenographers at the meetings. Love to see the transcripts.

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andreas broqvist

· #8 · Sep 18, 2010

hey cant just one of them move to swden so we can have atleast one org

Jerry Cudahy

Discussion Starter · #9 · Sep 18, 2010

Thomas Barriano said:
#3

United States Mondio Ring Association
more challenging, less melodrama and you don't have to deal with the French

Thomas

You are correct in a mannner of speaking.

Every time Nara Fks up it seems Mondio becomes just that much stronger.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Joby Becker

· #10 · Sep 18, 2010

Bart Karmich said:
Neither. Only the Germans were smart enough to figure out how to control both USCA and GSDCA-WDA so that they can determine what the Americans want and how much it will cost. The French and you could add the French Community of Belgium have proven quite a bit less adept in exploiting NARA, whereas ARF is a complete imposter that won't even admit to challenging NARA which is hardly a big bad wolf. The Dutch and Flemish on the other hand, seem to be content exporting only their dogs and don't seem to care how they might profit from what the Americans do with them afterward.

Did I get it right? I'm new and just learning.

I am new to the SCH world, it does appear there is a little tiff going on right now with USA and WDA...what is that all about...

Jeff Oehlsen

· #11 · Sep 18, 2010

So how many are voting ? LOL Every other poll, people vote. What happened ? Are you really afraid of Kadi ? LOL

Joby Becker

· #12 · Sep 18, 2010

what determines a win?

Geoff Empey

· #13 · Sep 18, 2010

Joby Becker said:
what determines a win?

When someone takes a American bred dog trains it from a pup and can compete with the best in the world on the same field.

So none of the pussy maggots that think that buying a pretrained dog and ruining it's training and pretending they know something need apply.

Timothy Stacy

· #14 · Sep 18, 2010

Geoff Empey said:
When someone takes a American bred dog trains it from a pup and can compete with the best in the world on the same field.

So none of the pussy maggots that think that buying a pretrained dog and ruining it's training and pretending they know something need apply.

LMAO, you are truly amazing. FR 1 with one dog in your home wow and putting all effort in. Every Sch 1 every Psa1 every mondio1 every ASR1, every dog trained to a 1 makes their handler a professional. Oh now your gonna take the pup you bred and do some more WOW you are my hero. We should now all listen to your breeding and training advise, oh and can't forget about your advise of being a sheep to NARA!

Timothy Stacy

· #15 · Sep 18, 2010

I put zero credibility on any title. In fact I worked a dog a few years ago who was at the top of NARA ring 3. The dog spooked on the face attack when I raised the stick in a SCH type manor. I would not have bought that dog for 10 dollars. Just goes to shows. I'm not even going to explain the SCH dogs and handler that I've seen with titles. I don't think I've seen video of your dog but I'd love to see it.

Geoff Empey

· #16 · Sep 19, 2010

Jeff Oehlsen said:
The USA is way too large for one organization, so there really should be three.

So the 150-200 maybe people that do Ring need 3 organizations? Interesting how in France they have 1,000s of people in the sport .. but there is only one organization. Why is that?

Geoff Empey

· #17 · Sep 19, 2010

Timothy Stacy said:
LMAO, you are truly amazing. FR 1 with one dog in your home wow and putting all effort in. Every Sch 1 every Psa1 every mondio1 every ASR1, every dog trained to a 1 makes their handler a professional. Oh now your gonna take the pup you bred and do some more WOW you are my hero. We should now all listen to your breeding and training advise, oh and can't forget about your advise of being a sheep to NARA!

Thanks Tim you are to kind.

Joby Becker

· #18 · Sep 19, 2010

so jerry who wins? What is the definition of winning before I vote...

Jesus Alvarez

· #19 · Sep 19, 2010

Isn't the ARF championships this weekend being held on a club field? Why did it get moved from a neutral site?
One of the decoys for this same trial just got certified and has never decoyed a FR trail much less a championship? How does that happen? Why didn't ARF select a decoy who has at least worked a trial instead?

Jeff Oehlsen

· #20 · Sep 19, 2010

Judge; Dominique Piton (France)
Decoys;
Lorent Schlernitzauer (France)
Eduardo Loyola (Puerto Rico USA)
Wade Morrell (Ohio USA)

So who didn't show up ?

Don't know about the field.

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