Prong collar and E-collar

Not sure what your question is on top? on top of what?
My dog wares the pinch the proper way tight and high on his neck ware it meets his head the electric is next with the receiver away from my leg and his fur saver
Sorry cant vote my dog always wares both even on trial day

Sorry, I am referring to neck position. And you answered the question.

I keep the metal collar below the receiver so it won't interfere or short the e-collar.

Are you referring to the neck, waist or tail? LOL!

Scott Williams said:

Are you referring to the neck, waist or tail? LOL!

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LOL!

Lloyd Kasakoff said:

You have to open up your mind to new possibilities.

Why not both?

I don't mean a prong AND an e-collar - I mean above AND below.

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Very interesting! What would be the reason for 2 prong collars?

Jonathan Katz said:

Very interesting! What would be the reason for 2 prong collars?

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My first guess would be Alzheimer's.

Nicole Stark said:

My first guess would be Alzheimer's.

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:lol:

I always put the prong collar the highest up on the neck and then any collar under it. Especially when pairing it with an ecollar. I find that if you have the prong under the ecollar and need to correct using the prong, it tends to drive the contact points of the ecollar into the neck causing further discomfort.

Lloyd Kasakoff said:

You have to open up your mind to new possibilities.

Why not both?

I don't mean a prong AND an e-collar - I mean above AND below.

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Jonathan Katz said:

Very interesting! What would be the reason for 2 prong collars?

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Simultaneous Decoy/Handler Corrections er well "simultaneous" isn't quite the right word, but you know what I mean right?

I voted wrong by accident... make it 5 for ecollar on top..... and subtract from prong on top O

I want the e-collar at the most sensitive point, when I m using an e, the prong is hardly used ....it can go below...

Margaret Wheeler said:

Simultaneous Decoy/Handler Corrections er well "simultaneous" isn't quite the right word, but you know what I mean right?

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Are you saying string the dog out? If so shouldn't one prong collar be facing the decoy. I hate decoy corrections! I don't allow anyone to correct my dog other than me.

I use an ecollar as my primary tool for correction. IMO the primary correction tool should be as high up on the dogs neck as possible. Also I don't like my prong collar to be touching any other collar on the dogs neck. I find it can muffle the strength of the correction.

Jonathan Katz said:

I don't allow anyone to correct my dog other than me.

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Well, Jonathan, you're lucky. Some dogs must just be terrors, and need a very special amount of correction from both handler *and* decoy. Or perhaps they *really* need to get the message from the handler.

Some handlers see pronging and e-collaring as a very positive experience for the dog - so the dog in the picture must be a *very* positive dog!

To me, you have to be clairvoyant or read the decoy's mind so the correction is properly applied when 2 people have to be in synch to deal with 2 e-collars. But as others have said, the way the collars are pointed in the picture, they're both for the handler, it would appear.

I get off cheap; I have shepherds, which means my dogs are lumbering and just not that drivey. I hung up my e-collar a few months ago.

Perhaps the handler can chime in and tell us why 3 collars are neccesary for her dog?

When I attended a Bart Bellon seminar, he says for dogs still in training the pinch goes high up on the neck near the ears and the e-collar below it. He uses both at the same time...little pop on the pinch and stim paired together.

After the dog is fairly reliable in the training the e-collar goes on first and then the pinch lower down. I don't remember his reasoning...maybe I've never gotten that far in training :-\":lol:

Candy, you beat me to it. Maybe we were at the same seminar. I know I entered the room with my Dutch with pinch up high and e-collar below and he was commenting that he liked when the collar you are actively using or using more is on top. He thought I did it on purpose. I just put the collar where it fit, no reason behind it!

Not having ever met the man, but it sounds like he is saying that because up top is more sensitive.... so it only makes sense to put the collar you are "actively" using or relying on at the most sensitive point... just a guess of course :-#