neutered or not?

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Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · May 29, 2006

Last night my male from almost 7 years feels himself sick, I went out with him for a walk several times, it looks he must pee but having nothing, I know it is his "prostaat"dutch word but you will probably understand it,

He has had this more often, but most of the time when there are females in heat. But this time it looks different, he also loose some blood when he must pee, and he feel himself sick, eats a lot of grass.

So I think tomorrow I make a appointment with the vet and let him neutered, Normaly I am not for neutered, I try once the "chemische"one but didn't worked out either.

Is there anyone who has the same experience?

this is yordi, looking for a place in the shadow in Spain.

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Mike Schoonbrood

· #2 · May 29, 2006

I found this website about swollen prostates in dogs, let me know if you need help translating anything.

http://www.workingdogs.com/deboer_prostate.htm

I don't have any experience with this myself, but that article has alot of information. Good luck!

Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #3 · May 29, 2006

thanks Mike he is having a lot of symptons described on the website. so I know I have no other option, last saturday he wants to jumpover I don't know how you call it over de haag en A schutting, but he has a lot of trouble with it, and normaly he jumped very easy without touchting it.

So first thing in the morning I call the vet

Connie Sutherland

· #4 · May 29, 2006

Elly Elsenaar said:
Last night my male from almost 7 years feels himself sick, I went out with him for a walk several times, it looks he must pee but having nothing, I know it is his "prostaat"dutch word but you will probably understand it, .....He has had this more often, but most of the time when there are females in heat. But this time it looks different, he also loose some blood when he must pee, and he feel himself sick, eats a lot of grass...... So I think tomorrow I make a appointment with the vet and let him neutered, Normaly I am not for neutered, I try once the "chemische"one but didn't worked out either.....Is there anyone who has the same experience?.....

Yes, you are doing the right thing making a vet appointment right away.

Several prostate problems occur in neutered as well as intact males, so you will want him to have a diagnosis -- not just neuter and assume that this will be the solution.

Also, a UTI might be all it is, too -- miserable for the dog, but treatable with antibiotics.

Kidney problems and bladder stones have these symptoms, too. This can be quite painful for the dog, so it's good that you are seeing and taking care of this.

http://www.vetinfo.com/dprostate.html

If you can go to a vet with a urology specialty, that would be the way I'd try to go.

Good luck..... please let us know.

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Connie Sutherland

· #5 · May 29, 2006

I tried to translate with my iMac........Mike will probably tell you if this came out crazy. Ot I guess you will know already!

Ja, doet u het juiste ding dat een dierenartsbenoeming rechtsweg doet.

Verscheidene prostate problemen komen binnen neutered evenals intacte
mannetjes voor, zodat zult u hem een onzijdige diagnose willen hebben
-- niet alleen en veronderstellen dat dit de oplossing zal zijn.

Ook, zou een UTI allen kunnen zijn het is, ook -- miserabel voor de
hond, maar te behandelen met antibiotica.

De problemen van de nier en de blaasstenen hebben ook deze symptomen.
Dit kan voor de hond vrij pijnlijk zijn, zodat is het goed dat u ziet
en dit behandelt.

Als u naar een dierenarts met een urologiespecialiteit kunt gaan, zou
dat de manier zijn I'd probeert te gaan.

Het goede geluk..... te laten gelieve ons het weten.

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Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #6 · May 29, 2006

I understand what you say, its almost the same whats stand on the site wich Mike told.

Thanks for advice, but I already know what I must do, I love the dog so much and see him in pain not feeling well, hurts as well. I allready tried homepatische medicines Mike can may be translate the words, and they seems to help for a while, but later on the same problem was there.

So I want to keep him with me for many years so I think neutered him is the best option, I make an appointment in the morning I let you know how things go after the visit to the vet.

Nice that you tried to translate it, I really apprieciated it!

this is yordi also, being helpful in a comercial for a vence or Fence?

This picture is published in several magazines and newspapers

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Connie Sutherland

· #7 · May 29, 2006

It may not be a matter of just neutering. It may be a urinary tract infection, a bladder infection, a kidney stone, etc.

What I mean is: Neutering will be a good thing for reducing prostate problems, but this might be more (or different) than prostate only.

So the first step might be a urinalysis.

Het kan geen kwestie zijn enkel neutering. Het kan een
urinelandstreekbesmetting, een blaasbesmetting, een niersteen, enz.
zijn.

Wat ik bedoel is: Neutering zal een goede zaak voor het verminderen
van prostate problemen zijn, maar dit zou meer of verschillend kunnen
zijn dan enkel prostate uitbreiding.

Zo zou de eerste stap een urineonderzoek kunnen zijn.

I hope that I am saying what I want to say: That "het neutering zou niet de volledige oplossing hier kunnen zijn," or "neutering might not be the entire solution here."

...........................
I love the fence advertisement! Your dog is beautiful. How did it happen that he became an actor? Did a director see him in competition or something like that?

His face (in the top photo) looks very young. I would not guess that he was seven.
.........................

Thank you for the opportunity to use my new Dutch translating program! It may have come out weird because I don't know enough to understand the colloquialisms, but it was fun. 8)

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Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 29, 2006

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yes I know, I take his urine with me, that was the plan, I will give him a whole check up.

But thanks for advice I will take it with me to the visit to the vet.

He sure looks young, when it comes to a actor, we get a call they needed dobermanns for their advertising, and ask us if we know some, so I have 3 of my own so we went to the harbour and he plays the game, the man puts his toy in his pants, we called the toy a bijtrol, I don't know the english word, so it looks like he bites him ,but he wants to have his toy, he likes to play with everyone so the people from the fence liked him very much, I also took the oldie from almost 10 and she likes it as well, they also manipulated one picture, cause they are not cropped and on the picture they have cropped ears, but it was fun to do we were having a nice afternoon, I will put a couple more here

You see same picture different ears!

And before you know you can write dutch!!

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Mike Schoonbrood

· #9 · May 29, 2006

I learnt to read dutch from Suske en Wiske :lol: :lol: :lol: I think all the reading made learning to write easier, because the first time I wrote dutch was in January this year.

And yes Fence, and Homeopathic

Good luck with him, let me know what happens.

Lÿka's cast comes off her leg on Thursday, so my life can return to normal, she is getting too heavy to carry!!!

Connie Sutherland

· #10 · May 29, 2006

Mike Schoonbrood said:
I learnt to read dutch from Suske en Wiske :lol: :lol: :lol: I think all the reading made learning to write easier, because the first time I wrote dutch was in January this year.

And yes Fence, and Homeopathic

Good luck with him, let me know what happens.

Lÿka's cast comes off her leg on Thursday, so my life can return to normal, she is getting too heavy to carry!!!

Yahoo for NO MORE CAST, as lovely as they are!

Connie Sutherland

· #11 · May 29, 2006

QUOTE: You see same picture different ears! END

I love it!

Great pictures, and sounds like great fun, too!!!

Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #12 · May 31, 2006

Yesterday I went to the vet, his prostate was very much swollen, its pushes on his"bekken"Mike I hope you can translate this word, so his kidneys were oke, he had an "blaasontsteking" so friday we go to make a echoscopie, and next friday he will be neutered.

He gets antibiotica now for 10 days. But the vets says its very painfull, and she wants to make that I believe you call it an ultrasound? to look into his "blaas"for stones.

HOpefully you understand it

Connie Sutherland

· #13 · May 31, 2006

Elly Elsenaar said:
Yesterday I went to the vet, his prostate was very much swollen, its pushes on his"bekken"Mike I hope you can translate this word, so his kidneys were oke, he had an "blaasontsteking" so friday we go to make a echoscopie, and next friday he will be neutered.

He gets antibiotica now for 10 days. But the vets says its very painfull, and she wants to make that I believe you call it an ultrasound? to look into his "blaas"for stones.

HOpefully you understand it

Yes. Very painful. I hope there are no stones, but if there are, they will probably be able to dissolve or remove them. VERY good that it's not his kidneys, but bladder things are miserable. The prostate is pushing on his urethra, I believe, even though "bekken" is not in my cool program.

I'm so glad you saw this and he is getting well.

Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #14 · May 31, 2006

I asked mike for some translation and he thougt "bekken"is the Pelvis.

I will keep you posted how things goes on friday

Mike Schoonbrood

· #15 · May 31, 2006

And Blaas is Bladder

Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #16 · May 31, 2006

Thanks Mike for helping me out, learning all the time!

Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 2, 2006

Went to the ultrasound center this afternoon, and there will be probably 14 stones in his bladder, and there were 2 cystes in his prostate, so we checked everything including his hart, there are a lot of hart problems in the Dobermann so if he gets his narcose? next friday I know his hart will be o.k.

When they neutered him they take also the stones, and they will give some research how the stones developed themselves in the bladder.

I have to contact my vet again on tuesday, and friday is the day

Connie Sutherland

· #18 · Jun 2, 2006

Elly Elsenaar said:
Went to the ultrasound center this afternoon, and there will be probably 14 stones in his bladder, and there were 2 cystes in his prostate, so we checked everything including his hart, there are a lot of hart problems in the Dobermann so if he gets his narcose? next friday I know his hart will be o.k.

When they neutered him they take also the stones, and they will give some research how the stones developed themselves in the bladder.

I have to contact my vet again on tuesday, and friday is the day

Stones are crystallization of minerals (often calcium) in the bladder. There are several ways for them to form. If you would like reading material, I can supply it.

So they will check his heart to make sure it can withstand anesthesia, I think you're saying?

Connie Sutherland

· #19 · Jun 2, 2006

Elly Elsenaar said:
Went to the ultrasound center this afternoon, and there will be probably 14 stones in his bladder, and there were 2 cystes in his prostate, so we checked everything including his hart, there are a lot of hart problems in the Dobermann so if he gets his narcose? next friday I know his hart will be o.k.

When they neutered him they take also the stones, and they will give some research how the stones developed themselves in the bladder.

I have to contact my vet again on tuesday, and friday is the day

The poor guy..... all painful stuff, and good to be getting it removed.

Elly Elsenaar

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 2, 2006

Yes he is cardio clear, that is a health problem in the breed, I thought in case of, he was on the right place to look at it, and he was such a good boy!

The vet won't take urine right now, because he got antibiotic now and then they can't do the right research work, what the reasons is that the stones are there,

But he is a good healty boy, with a swollen prostate with cystes (I don't know the English word) and bladder stones!! So that was the good news

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