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Any opinions on the following crossbreeds
Bred using arteficial insemination with a large breed female and smaller breed male

-APBT gamebred x caucasian shepherd (working line)
-Patterdale (working line) x Fila Brasileiro (working line)
-Mixes with dogs these combinations and KNPV bloodline Malinois or Canarian bloodline Presa Canario.

How would the mixes do as personal protection or guard dog??
 

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Any opinions on the following crossbreeds
Bred using arteficial insemination with a large breed female and smaller breed male

-APBT gamebred x caucasian shepherd (working line)
-Patterdale (working line) x Fila Brasileiro (working line)
-Mixes with dogs these combinations and KNPV bloodline Malinois or Canarian bloodline Presa Canario.

How would the mixes do as personal protection or guard dog??
Dogs function through instincts inherited from wolfs (protect teritory, protect pack ,stalk prey, chase ,kill ,dismember and feed). We have shaped breeds by manipulating these instincts- toning some down and exaggerating the others according to our needs. In a way like cars have engine that drives them and brakes with which we control the engine.
Mixing breeds with similar traits will give predictable results, while mixing dogs with oposite traits might give you race car with faulty brakes.
Caucassians are livestock guardians-very human agressive, territorial, not very trainable or biddable. On the other side they have low hunting instict and are relatively indifferent to environmental stimulation outside its territory or in non threatening situations.
Pit bull is oposite to that. Not overly bound to its territory, not too human agressive , strong chase -pounce instinct and exagerrated kill drive.
You could get dogs that are liability for unprovoked human attacks with strong kill instict factor.
Same with other combination. Fila does have hunt drive but kill drive has been removed.
KNPV Mals ang Dutchies have already been outcrossed with Pitbulls and other breeds and absorbed what they had to offer to a great extent.
You could possibly get good results if you had high quality specimens of all these breeds, produce number of litters and cull everything you dont like.
 

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Dogs function through instincts inherited from wolfs (protect teritory, protect pack ,stalk prey, chase ,kill ,dismember and feed). We have shaped breeds by manipulating these instincts- toning some down and exaggerating the others according to our needs. In a way like cars have engine that drives them and brakes with which we control the engine.
Mixing breeds with similar traits will give predictable results, while mixing dogs with oposite traits might give you race car with faulty brakes.
Caucassians are livestock guardians-very human agressive, territorial, not very trainable or biddable. On the other side they have low hunting instict and are relatively indifferent to environmental stimulation outside its territory or in non threatening situations.
Pit bull is oposite to that. Not overly bound to its territory, not too human agressive , strong chase -pounce instinct and exagerrated kill drive.
You could get dogs that are liability for unprovoked human attacks with strong kill instict factor.
Same with other combination. Fila does have hunt drive but kill drive has been removed.
KNPV Mals ang Dutchies have already been outcrossed with Pitbulls and other breeds and absorbed what they had to offer to a great extent.
You could possibly get good results if you had high quality specimens of all these breeds, produce number of litters and cull everything you dont like.
Couldn't agree more,
Not all the pups would have the desired traits, they might have undesired traits from both breeds, so the pick from the litter is important.
And of course I would go for the best specimens of the breed.😉
 
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