Is this a riddle? I'm offended and you must be a fool. LOL
Wait you just called Fred a dog trainer!
Yoda! I got the answer, I got the answer! !!!MARKETING!!! It has nothing to do with good training! :grin::grin::grin: \\/ \\/
Dean, good explanation!
I've been to Flinks, Ivan B and a bajillion AKC seminars going back to the early 80s but Elllis is definitely on my bucket list!
Maybe even a trip to train!