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K9 Territorial behaviour vs. Social behaviour

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With well-aged training philosophies, and modern-day training styles having come about, a new mix in training has come to the fold. More and more ways than one exist out there that consistently render greater success, by just following the conventional cookbook on dog selection and then training, it seems to have dissipated, giving way to the trend of thinking on more scientific and sound methodology and application for dog selection and training.

K9 Territorial behaviour vs. social behaviour

All canine, whether living in a solitary or social state, are still territorial.

The question is what is the significance of this for both owners and trainers alike.

Well, in a social behaviour context it would translate to the following behaviour traits:

· Social canines exhibit behaviour that we want, and would like to see; therefore, socialisation is a must, and a prerequisite before training, and even during selection.

· We talked about aggression, or aggressiveness in one thread, and this flagged something, the importance of individualism, and the differences in behaviour from the rest, because of this trait, seen in any breed. How do we develop this?

· Well-socialised dogs, have more visual and emotional traits and forms of communication, they have “soul” – “character”, and exhibit a far greater tolerance to being in close proximity of humans and other animals. They are observed to have better hunting, social, behavioural, and other instincts and skill; many are more timid and inclined to learn from the behaviour of others – including other animals and humans. They make more play, and exhibit more tolerance to their environment and those in it – true social behaviour, as we understand it, or observe it.

· They are also observed to possess greater complexity in their use of all their senses, visual and auditory cues and, consequently, can convey a greater range of expression – and communicate; this is consistent with the closer proximity afforded by pack behaviour.

· Compared with unsociable animals, where we see the opposite – very little differentiation in character traits, very few individualised characters – their character is stereotype, and so is their behaviour, as well as very routine, they will sleep in the same spot ext. They tend to all exhibit the same confidence levels and abilities.

These traits were achieved by or through, domestication; what is so significant about this, it is common knowledge, you may ask. Well domesticated dogs have acquired the physique ability to recognize human communication, studies conducted proved this, compared to their animal counterparts and ours, wolves and chimpanzees, domesticated dogs proved to have become more intelligent – than the afore mentioned in this regard as a species, they have developed the ability to truly and consistently, understand cues from human subjects.

You may say, hay this is great. Yes it is. However, and this is where it all goes wrong for some of them having attained this enlighten state – communication with humans.

The results are that they also get the good with the bad. Dogs are also very emotional animals, with good memories. This implies that they can also suffer from stress. Good and or bad stress, Also referred to as Acute stress – more commonly known observed as “the fight or flight response” -A dog experiences many types of feelings and sensations daily, same as humans, from separation anxiety to Closter phobia. Even boredom that will manifest in ultimately frustration and anger, that can alter their behaviour and in some occasions, it can even cause their death.

There have been cases where the dog owner had passed away and subsequently caused the dog to become depressed, the point where the dog stopped eating, got sick and died as well.

Puppy’s that grow up in environments where people yell and scream a lot, even fight all the time, and where there is no emotional stability, will adopt an insecure attitude.

The dog might sometimes be submissive and tranquil whilst at other times it will behave nervous and even aggressive, due to its own emotional instability – caused by unsocial behaviour in his environment. – I Think :wink:

How do you see this? :?:
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ehmmmm I first have to figure out wtf you´re talking about....cost me some translationtime ´cause you write so formal(i have more trouble to understand things..damn I want to understand english better)...or do you care translating this in south´s probably better understandable for me :oops:
Ahh! Philosophy...

Ancient dogs are now domesticated and successful at dog / human interaction...because they fullfilled a primal need...assist in the hunt. They are first, PREDATORS (reward seeking and playful); second, mammals (dependent); and third, social (survival enhanced by the pack). Dogs were also the appropriate size. They could be defended against by primitive man. Perhaps, lions (predators, mammals and social) could have also been domesticated through the ages, with the only caveat that primitive man would have been PREY in that relationship.

Most mammalian predators can be taught to associate behaviors to a much higher level than say, ungulates or high order predatory fish. The higher up on the food chain (if a member of the mammal kingdom), the more trainable.

Develop individualism in general? Not necessary, IMO, if you can develop the relationship on a specie-wide basis, as has been done with canis familiaris. Individualism for tracking, for territoriality, for pack dependence? Yes...and quite applicable...for practical purposes required by man. How? Concentrate socialisation and exposure from VERY early on, in those areas, but without forgetting about everything else that may also stimulate. Select the best representatives, and breed success to success. Cull carefully and dispassionately. Etc.

It is very well known that, in mammals, more synapses develop the more stimulation there is. This even includes stimulation of the violent kind. And the more synapses there are, the more areas of the brain are interconnected, and thus interrelate. This is the basis of higher order associations, up to deductive reasoning.

And so, socialize, socialize, stress, expose...and repeat.

(Shit, Reiner...pretty deep post... :lol: )
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Someone's looking at my post while I write

I did not write crap...I wrote SHIT! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think I pass this one...I kind of understand ( a little)what you´re saying, but translating my thoughts is wayyy to difficult :cry:
Selena van Leeuwen – translated : net vir jou, en in kort, ek vra, hoe belangrik is dit dat ons n hond aan die omgiwing moet bloot stel, om hulle te kan kry om n persoonlikheid te kan ontwikkel, wat uniek is.

Die argument is dat socialiseering, nie net stop by die gewoone dinge nie, die diere is ook vatbaar vir ons emosioneele inprenting, as ons skreeu en raas dan verwilder ons hulle, hulle het nou ook n fisieke band met ons, en dit bepaal hulle stress vlak ook.

So ons is direk verandwoordelik vir hoe hulle hulle unike karakter form.

Wat dink jy?
Reinier, you´re the greatest..south-african still looks like dutch :wink:

Yes, we have a great deal in how a dog develops.
We choose to let a dog develop in his own way, so purely his genatically self. That´s why we leave a dog alone for the first 8 mo-1 yr. We take it out so it socializes with things (slippery floor, all kind of noises, come to the club etc), and few people (aren´t social genatically and we don´t encourage them to be). In puppyhood we let them learn in their own way, without outside pressure. I play with them, hug them, touch them, I do not punish..ignore things or later on a verbal correction: NO. The dog bonds most to the one, who is taking care of it the most. My little girl: likes my hubbie and adores the ground I´m walking on.

Brought up in another way they develop differently(my father in law has one of our dogs and brought up otherwise), some things are getting supspressed (not liking other people, they kind of learning to ignore people)..still they have a preference for a certain kind of people.
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Selena, i look at it from a different point of view than you i guess. I need a confident social dog cause i bring one to work every day, or to whatever social gathering i'm going to etc. My new dog that i got from Will Rambeau is awesome, very clearheaded, social and will bite and stay in the fight till i tell him to stop and feels no pressure. I think that adult dogs that hate people or are skittish around them are scared, not confident, JMO,

Selena on another account..

Not social doesn't mean skittish in my opinion. Not social rates from ignoring other people till every one in the surrounding of 2-3 meters is mine.
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