Quote:Ya know Jeff, when you say things that are abusive, illogical and downright mean-spirited it greatly diminishes the validity of the correct, logical advice that you give..... makes everything have a negative feel to it. Kinda like continuously giving unfair corrections to a dog. They lose respect for you and don't see you as a fair, upstanding member of their pack.
Here is the thing. I don't see anything illogical, about what ZI said. I would be curious as to wether or not you actually read what I wrote, or just skimmed it like all the other people. As far as a negative feel, well of course it does. I sat down and actually gave FOR FREE correct advice to deal with the situation involved.
I do not know any top level trainer that does not use corrections. Usually very harsh and brutal corrections that would make little positive weasels pee themselves for fear "the poor dog will be hurt".Yet year after year, with these same methods, these people compete with these dogs.
I made it quite clear that the correction should not knock the snot out of the dog. I made it quite clear that this behavior was innapropriate, but expected at this age. Then I was informed that this dog was still a "toddler" in her opinion, which told me quite clearly that she was clueless. 5 month old dogs are not "toddlers", but for lack of a better way of putting it, like a 13 year old boy. Slapping a dog that is biting you in the manner described is perfectly fine, and no where near abuse.
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