jinopo vs anrebri

What does being "classic czech shepherd" entail?

if you dont know, just answer which you would go to for a good dog

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Michael Murphy said:

if you dont know, just answer which you would go to for a good dog

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A good dog for me, might be a bad dog for you.

What is a good dog for you?

Joby Becker said:

#-o[-o<](*,):roll:

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hahahahahah, its just a bit of fun joby :-\"

Tiago Fontes said:

A good dog for me, might be a bad dog for you.

What is a good dog for you?

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to make it easy for you , lets just say a dog with high prey drive and solid nerves. now do you want to pick one?

I would dare saying that "classic czech shepherds" are not known for their high prey drive.
In fact, I think they are known mostly for higher defense.


No. I won't pick one, lol.

Ahh you do know ;-) but I think civil is the preferred term

Civil is overated. I prefer a dog that bites what I tell him to bite and never loses intensity.

Many "civil" dogs are picky about what they are going to fill their mouth with.

All civil means is a dog that will bite someone who isn't wearing protection, no country produces more or less civil dogs, what you need are magic beans to feed any dog guaranteed to make them civil monsters, and I happen to have some for sale, PM me if you're interested.

I think that Michael is forgetting one key point in all his asking questions and looking for information...

All this information on the better pup or bloodline or dog or breeder means absolutely sweet **** all if it ends up in the wrong hands. You can look at breeds, breeders, bloodlines ...whatever! It doesn't matter what or who it is and where it comes from, put it in the wrong hands and it might never ammount up to anything worthy....

Alice Bezemer said:

I think that Michael is forgetting one key point in all his asking questions and looking for information...

All this information on the better pup or bloodline or dog or breeder means absolutely sweet **** all if it ends up in the wrong hands. You can look at breeds, breeders, bloodlines ...whatever! It doesn't matter what or who it is and where it comes from, put it in the wrong hands and it might never ammount up to anything worthy....

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Exactly!! nicely put :smile:

Lots of good advice here from Alice,Tiago etc and Michael stop getting ya panties in a bunch over blood lines go looking for a good dog get ya money out and buy it pretty easy

Some of the good dogs over here are a mix of lines a bit of this and that but great dogs from great individuals is what counts.

And over here i would stay away from some of the anerbri dogs just my opinion of course.

^ why no anrebri ???

I'm going to put a spanner in the works.

If the pup has a strong nervous costume, is physically fit and blessed with energy, even with a mediocre upbringing, surely it will survive. It may not be seen on the international sport fields but unless some brow-beating handler got hold of it, the worst it could become is an under-challenged dog??

However, it happens that new handlers are frightened of doing too much with their pup and afterwards come across a good trainer who can teach them how to handle it.

I know of a handler who brought a Tyson von der Schiffslache bitch to our training - 3 years' old, absolutely no respect for the helper - or the handler! Charged in, wouldn't round the blinds, etc. Within one or two training sessions where our helper blasted the handler, big as he was, the bitch calmed down and got very good results.

Can a good strong pup really be ruined?

Michael,

In your quest for knowledge, why havent you looked into west german working lines? I am sure you'd get a lot more feedback from experienced breeders and handlers here.

Myself, I am starting a 2-3 Pike V. D. Schafbachmuhle 5 months old pup and bred a litter which is 4-3 linebred on Pike. One of the pups was sent to Holland to a KNPV trainer and the rest stayed near me for evaluation.

They all look good so far, but I am waiting for maturity in order to see what was really produced.


Regards

Would love to see vid of those pups at some point Tiago, what are some of the things you are noticing with them? I remember opinions on pike were conflicting.

Tiago Fontes said:

Michael,

In your quest for knowledge, why havent you looked into west german working lines? I am sure you'd get a lot more feedback from experienced breeders and handlers here.

Myself, I am starting a 2-3 Pike V. D. Schafbachmuhle 5 months old pup and bred a litter which is 4-3 linebred on Pike. One of the pups was sent to Holland to a KNPV trainer and the rest stayed near me for evaluation.

They all look good so far, but I am waiting for maturity in order to see what was really produced.


Regards

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bahhahaahaha, i was almost thinking i had run out of questions to ask (untill i find out that the breeding was successful for my next pup, then the training questions will fill up this forum :-D) , i forgot about west german lines, but to be honest out of all the lines, have been my least favourite, too many people saying their only good for biting sleeves, but i herd pike produces some CIVIL :wink: dogs.
now i shall start learning about west german lines

Haz Othman said:

Would love to see vid of those pups at some point Tiago, what are some of the things you are noticing with them? I remember opinions on pike were conflicting.

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They are 10 weeks old now... showing good drives, good confidence and environmentally strong. The handlers are basically doing puppy stuff (exposure, starting obedience and some rag work).

I should have some videos in a couple of weeks. Will let you know by then.


Take care