[Kristen Cabe]

1st Track: Not filmed. Done at SchH Club

2nd Track: http://media.putfile.com/Jak-2nd-Track-90606

3rd Track: Not filmed due to rain.

4th Track: http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/runningtsjak/?action=view&current=Sept1506Tracking4thtime.flv

5th Track: Done today. Food in first 5 steps, then 3 steps w/no food, followed by 5 steps w/food, 3 w/no food, & end w/jackpot. This track was very short.
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/runningtsjak/?action=view&current=Jak5thTrackSept2606.flv

 

[Sarah Hall]

Looks good, but start giving him a little space so he learns to work independantly.

 

[Kristen Cabe]

I was told not to get behind him yet; to stay no further back than his back legs, in case I need to help him. He's only tracked 5 times

 

[Kristen Cabe]

6th Track: September 30, 2006. 5 steps w/food, 3 w/out food, repeated 3 times and then the jackpot at the end.
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/runningtsjak/?action=view&current=Jak6thtrackSept3006.flv

 

[Connie Sutherland]

6th Track: September 30, 2006. 5 steps w/food, 3 w/out food, repeated 3 times and then the jackpot at the end.
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/runningtsjak/?action=view&current=Jak6thtrackSept3006.flv

Looks good, Kristen! :>)

 

[Connie Sutherland]

P.S. I can view these new clips you're doing. \/

 

[Jerry Lyda]

Good job. I didn't see where you had to correct him at all. I would get behind him now about three feet.

 

[Bob Scott]

Excellent!

 

[Kristen Cabe]

Aside from that one track we did in the rain where he literally pulled me along, and missed a bunch of steps, he's done nearly perfect every time. He seems to be a natural at it. I have found, though, that it's best not to try and track every day, or he tries to go too fast.

Should I still be putting food on the scent pad at the beginning of the track?

Another thing: How do I correct him if I need to? If he is going too fast or goes off the track? That's one thing that I haven't had shown or explained to me.

Connie: Photobucket does seem to be better for everyone. :wink:

 

[Jerry Lyda]

Are you using a prong collar. If not that will help to slow him down. He didn't look too fast for me though. Be behind him and hold him back if that doesn't work. Still he didn't look too fast to me.

Yes continue to use food on the pad. This too will help at least start him slow.

Don't do anything if he goes off track except stop and let him work it out.

 

[Connie Sutherland]

Aside from that one track we did in the rain where he literally pulled me along, and missed a bunch of steps, he's done nearly perfect every time. He seems to be a natural at it. I have found, though, that it's best not to try and track every day, or he tries to go too fast.

Should I still be putting food on the scent pad at the beginning of the track?

Another thing: How do I correct him if I need to? If he is going too fast or goes off the track? That's one thing that I haven't had shown or explained to me.

Connie: Photobucket does seem to be better for everyone. :wink:

I will be interested in answers here, too.

I am *not* correcting when the dog goes off; I'm letting him find the food again by himself. I'm also not correcting for speed.

Anyone have suggestions about this?

 

[Connie Sutherland]

Oops, Jerry posted answers that I missed. Thanks!

 

[Connie Sutherland]

.....He didn't look too fast for me though. Be behind him and hold him back if that doesn't work. Still he didn't look too fast to me........

If the dog isn't missing any steps, then does that mean he's not too fast?

 

[Jerry Lyda]

Dogs are like us, they work different. I'm saying for now don't mess with him. Let him work at his pace.

Have you ever taken a car that gives you problems, sometimes, to get it fixed. When you take it, the mechanic can't find anything wrong. Then of course he can't fix what isn't broken. The same for Kristen, don't fix what isn't broke. Give him time to fix it himself. You must wait till it is broke to fix it. He will know when he is off track. Let him work it out. You don't push a dogs rump down with your hand when you are teaching the sit command. You give him time and he will sooner or later get it right. Then it's repetition till he understands and knows what sit means.

Connie you asked, "If the dog isn't missing any steps, then does that mean he's not too fast?"

That is what I'm saying. How is too fast measured? I think it's measured by how well the dog does. If he misses and can't get back on track, then he's too fast and this is when you fix it. Fix it with no corrections,just take him to the place he was correct and start him over from there. If he misses but gets back on quickly then I would say good boy. A very good tracking dog misses and a bad tracking dog gets it right. We just all hope that we do things right during training and on trial day he does what he has been trained to do.

This is what I do. For traning I ask God for the wisdom to train my dog correctly and for trial day I ask for the dog and myself to do our best. It's that simple.

Tracking schutzhund style will take more of your time than OB or protection. You must be committed. And sometimes we will think we need to be committed for putting ourselves through this. :wink:

Happy training,

 

[Bob Scott]

Well said Jerry!
Especially about schutzhund tracking taking more time then OB or protection.
That's going to be the big difference between going for a SchH A, or a SchH 1 in about 8wks. Getting off my lazy butt and tracking.
As much as I love scent work with dogs, sport tracking isn't at the top of my fun list.

 

[Kristen Cabe]

Thanks for all the input. :mrgreen:

No, I'm not using the prong collar for tracking. He doesn't *always* go too fast, but some days he tries to; I just wasn't sure if I was supposed to be trying to hold him back, or popping the leash, or what, IF he WAS going too fast. He did fine as far as speed on Track #6.

Another question about if he gets off track: Do I let him continue to go forward until he finds the next footstep with food in it (since there isn't food in every step now), or hold him back until he finds the footstep that he missed, or what?

The only thing I'm not too fond of, tracking-wise, is actually laying the track. It's boring and tedious. :lol:


Oh, one last dumb question: Does it matter if, when I go get him to take him to the track, he starts sniffing the ground and pulling me while I'm taking him to the track?

 

[Kristen Cabe]

7th Track: October 3, 2006. I started out 5 steps w/food, 3 w/out. I did that twice, then started varying it up. The longest stretch with no food was 7 steps. He got a little confused, but quickly sorted it out on his own. I think he did this twice. Once he stopped and started to back up, at which point I was going to encourage him forward, but he went on when I stepped up. I was only about 2-3 feet behind his butt.

http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l190/runningtsjak/?action=view&current=Jak7thTrackOct0306.flv

 

[Connie Sutherland]

That looks really good to me!

I see that you aren't using a wall for a turn. I made the first turn approximately where a wall comes up so it would be easier for Pomfret to see that he doesn't go straight. (I can't view your clips for the first few.)

I haven't made a turn yet without a helpful guiding obstacle. :lol:

This week I will!

 

[Kristen Cabe]

I'm not doing turns just yet; I'm just not that good at walking in a perfectly straight line :lol:

That's a good suggestion though! I'll remember it when I DO introduce a turn (which should be probably Track #11 or 12, if all keeps going well).

 

[Connie Sutherland]

I'm not doing turns just yet; I'm just not that good at walking in a perfectly straight line :lol:

That's a good suggestion though! I'll remember it when I DO introduce a turn (which should be probably Track #11 or 12, if all keeps going well).

HAHAHAHAHA! That's why it looked like a gentle turn!

I just did my first turn last week. Someone advised me to ease into it with the barrier as a guide, and it did work great; no hesitation at all on a 90-degree turn!

He said to do a few that way before doing it without the wall. He's a big believer in slow and positive, with lots of success to build confidence.