I was just fooling around on PedigreeDatabase.com and decided to see how far back my pup's pedigree goes. Lots of interesting dogs, some pretty famous, like Bernd v. Lierberg (I know about his twin, Bodo, that was sold to an American breeder and was rarely used for breeding because he didn't conform to AMERICAN standards). I've heard he was the most famous working/show GSD and that breeders would do almost anything to get that name in their lines? The oldest dog on there was named Pollox and was born appx 22 Feb 1891. And, like most, I found Horand von Grafrath, von Stephanitz's dog. Just was wondering if anyone else has looked that far back to find Horand?