[Amber Scott Dyer]

Just curious - I was under the impression that you weren't allowed to move up a level at a trial - for example, if you got your Brevet, you could not then enter for the Ring 1. I know there are some specific circumstances where you can trial for both legs of the 1 at one trial, but when? Is it when you have two judges and two separate days? I've looked through the rulebook but I can't find it (probably because it's 95 pages long and my eyes blur halfway through )

Just a thought - I hope to be ready by fall/winter for trial, but I'm going to have to do some serious traveling - probably fly - and I'd rather get as much accomplished in one trip as possible, you know?

 

[kellie pulido]

You can move up and attempt your ring one leg if you pass your brevet at the same trial.

 

[steve gossmeyer]

you can do a brevet and the first leg of the one in the same trial. but the reason most dont move on is because both legs of the 123 have to be under different judges.

 

[Kadi Thingvall]

I know there are some specific circumstances where you can trial for both legs of the 1 at one trial, but when? Is it when you have two judges and two separate days?

The moving up question has been answered, so I'll just address this.

The FRI, FRII and FRIII each require 2 legs for the title. Those two legs have to be under different judges. They do not have to be on seperate days though.

I've been to trials where they held one trial, with one judge (call him Judge A) in the morning, then another trial with a second judge (call him Judge B) in the afternoon. IF your dog had the stamina and training, you could have started with nothing in the morning, and have the first leg of your FRII by the afternoon. Brevet/FRI under Judge A, then FRI/FRII under Judge B. Other times a club will bring in 2 judges and do a trial with 1 judge on Sat and the other on Sun. It's the same possibilities, just spread out over the weekend making it more likely the dog will pass each level.

 

[David Frost]

I enjoy reading about the different sports. It truly is an education to me as I've confessed my ignorance about sport. What is Brevet?

Thanks

DFrost

 

[steve gossmeyer]

the brevet is the entry level title to french ring(mondio has a brevet as well)
it consist of obedience on and off leash(w/ muzzle) long down for a minute with handler out of sight, food refusal, defense of handler and a face attack

 

[Kadi Thingvall]

I have two videos online of Brevet's, that include almost everything. All the exercises are there, I just clipped things like the long down. Instead of showing the entire thing (how boring LOL) I showed the first 5 seconds and the last 5 seconds (approx).

Mac - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf5RCfp9LQE
Havok - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1txCSWjBH0

There are overviews of Ring and the different levels at

http://www.ringsport.org/aboutnara.htm
http://www.dantero.com/frring.htm

The full on rulebook is at
http://www.ringsport.org/rulebook.htm

The MR rules are at
http://www.usmondioring.org/USMRArulesdirectory.html#pgtop

 

[David Frost]

Kadi, thank you.

DFrost

 

[Amber Scott Dyer]

So, any trial that has two judges listed would apply here?

 

[steve gossmeyer]

yes it would

 

[Amber Scott Dyer]

cool... not that we're ready yet, just thinking. Steve, when you move to NC, why don't yall form a FR club? Maybe then some of us wouldn't have to fly cross country to trial... Yall are only three or four hours from me. Seriously, the closest ring club is in FL, 8 hrs. away from Augusta, and it's 13 or 14 hour drive to the next closest one. Being a poverty stricken student, it's expensive to hop a plane... it must be nice to live somewhere like California, where there's four or five trials a year within driving distance... sigh.

 

[steve gossmeyer]

hell im 2 hours away from Chicago now. and there is a bunch of trials comin up. im trialling june2-3 but and i am goin for my decoy cert as well. anyway. um ill be down in june sometime probably middle. im not sure whats gonna happen club wise

 

[Jeff Oehlsen]

Not true, there is a Mondio club out there, and I THINK that Chris Duhon has a club somewhere out there.

Remember, ring rules, and Sch drools.

 

[Lacey Vessell]

The Mondio Club is near Winston Salem, NC and Chris is in Louisiana now:smile:

 

[steve gossmeyer]

yup yup the mondio club is like 6 hours away and chris is in southern louisiana now thats too far to drive

 

[Jeff Oehlsen]

6 hrs. I wonder what the average driving to club time is here in the US. I am always hearing stories of rediculous amounts of drive time for the weekend.

Yet in France, they have a club every 5 miles or something rediculous, kinda like we have unused baseball fields here.

 

[steve gossmeyer]

were i am now i drive about 2 and a half hours once to twice a week. that isnt that bad. othe than gas is $3.30 a gallon here. but when i move to nc i wont have to go very far at all

 

[Amber Scott Dyer]

Chris Duhon isn't doing a lot of training now, anyway - he's competing in rodeos. And the MR club is just as far as the FR club is, and as far as I can tell, they aren't a particularly active club - don't host a lot of trials or seminars, etc.

I only drive about ten minutes to our club. Jerry and Jay drive less than that. And when we train at Matt's house, it's only like five minutes. I feel spoiled.

 

[Amber Scott Dyer]

Oh but until I found our ASR club, I had to train schutzhund in Atlanta and drove 2 hrs one-way every weekend for a year.

 

[steve gossmeyer]

im driving two and a half twice a week now. but once i move there which im comin down the 6th of june to finalize some things. then i wont have to go far at all