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This is an actual Freecycle ad. I wonder what they want the dog for? :evil: ](*,)

"I am looking for a full blooded German Shepard female that has not been spayed.
Please respond by email. If you have papers on her that is great. Thanks,

Chloe"
 

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:eek: "IF" you have papers that is great".

If not, we can get our own. :evil:
Or maybe I'm just being parinoid here and adding my own finish to the add. :-k ............NAAAW!
 

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I see this a lot in the web stuff I research for work. These neo-eBay groups...the online swap meets...I see more and more "puppies swapped for junk" ads. Really disturbing.
 

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Woody Taylor said:
I see this a lot in the web stuff I research for work. These neo-eBay groups...the online swap meets...I see more and more "puppies swapped for junk" ads. Really disturbing.
About as bad as witnessing crates of puppies being sold from teh backs of cars at the malls in Fayetteville, NC? I'd never seen that before visiting my in-law's earlier this year. AND PEOPLE BUY THEM.

The lady can't spell "shepherd," either. If you're gonna request one, at least make sure you're asking for the correct thing.
 

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Here's another good one:

We have a 15 month old dog is in need of great home. This dog is not
for pit bait he is a loving family dog that we just can't keep anymore.
He is white with a patch over one eye. He is great with kids. Please
help me find him a home.

Carolyn



Yeah, like someone's gonna say, "Yep. Ahm gonna use 'im ta make mah pit bull wanna fight." :roll:

I sent the first lady a reply just being inquisitive as to why she wants an unspayed female, so we'll see what she says, even though I'm pretty sure I know exactly what the response will be:

"We've got a male and he's such a great dog that we want some puppies just like him!" :roll: :roll: :evil: :x
 

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Kristen Cabe said:
Here's another good one:

We have a 15 month old dog is in need of great home. This dog is not
for pit bait he is a loving family dog that we just can't keep anymore.
He is white with a patch over one eye. He is great with kids. Please
help me find him a home.

Carolyn



Yeah, like someone's gonna say, "Yep. Ahm gonna use 'im ta make mah pit bull wanna fight." :roll:
Well...not directly...my guess is they're saying they don't want the dog thrown to pits that are being taught to kill. If you are not familiar with what happens, they'll tease out the dog with an animal...chicken, kitten, puppies...and then throw the animal to the pits once they're done agitating them. Kind of like a bite sleeve for serial killers-in-training. :!: And yeah, it's as bad as it sounds. And no, I'm not saying all pits are serial killers-in-training.

Not sure if you knew this, couldn't tell where you were directing your sarcasm.
 

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Man, between some of the posts here today and yesterday, and the cane corso thread at another forum, it is turning out to be a depressing day in the dog world.
 

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Stacia Porter said:
About as bad as witnessing crates of puppies being sold from teh backs of cars at the malls in Fayetteville, NC? I'd never seen that before visiting my in-law's earlier this year. AND PEOPLE BUY THEM.
Stacia,

The funny (or sad, depending) thing is, that's actually ILLEGAL in North Carolina, but no one gives a... :-#

I used to live in Fayetteville (my mother still does), and I've seen that a TON. Sitting out in front of Sam's Club selling pits or "Shepherds" or designer Pomehuahua Frises. :lol: Okay, not funny, but you know what I mean. And yup...sell like hotcakes. :x :evil:
 

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Stacia,

The funny (or sad, depending) thing is, that's actually ILLEGAL in North Carolina, but no one gives a... :-#

I used to live in Fayetteville (my mother still does), and I've seen that a TON. Sitting out in front of Sam's Club selling pits or "Shepherds" or designer Pomehuahua Frises. :lol: Okay, not funny, but you know what I mean. And yup...sell like hotcakes. :x :evil:
Yeah, it floors me, too. I'm happy to report that I have NOT seen this here in Hickory LOL. In fact, I don't think we even have a kill shelter. There are NO off leash dogs roaming my neighborhood. I'm sure there are neglected dogs somewhere in this city, but for the most part people look like responnsible owners (well, there must be some deadbeats since we have shelters and rescues).

It's sad that someone has to specify that they don't want their dog thrown to the pits...
 

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Stacia Porter said:
It's sad that someone has to specify that they don't want their dog thrown to the pits...
Welcome to NC!
 

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Woody, yes, I'm very aware of what is done. I was just saying that a person who is going to use a dog in that manner is not going to TELL the person that they're getting the dog from that that's what they're gonna do with it, so specifying that you don't want the dog (that you're offering FREE to whoever wants it) to be used as pit bait is, well, stupid.
 

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You know, no matter what, I would never buy or sell a dog to someone who spells it "Shepard" (or shepperd, shepheard, etc). :|
 

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Sarah Hall said:
You know, no matter what, I would never buy or sell a dog to someone who spells it "Shepard" (or shepperd, shepheard, etc). :|
Sarah,

When I checked out my dog's veterinary records from the clinic in Germany (and mind you the military vet's primary job is to vet military working dogs which are most GSD's, Dutchie's, and mal's) the tab read:

"Achilles"
Canine
"German sheppard dog"

I just shook my head REALLY hard....

They also misspelled Abbie (had it Abey). I think they need a new receptionist.
 

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Kristen Cabe said:
Woody, yes, I'm very aware of what is done. I was just saying that a person who is going to use a dog in that manner is not going to TELL the person that they're getting the dog from that that's what they're gonna do with it, so specifying that you don't want the dog (that you're offering FREE to whoever wants it) to be used as pit bait is, well, stupid.
I figured, hope my post did not come off wrong :eek: . Was not meant to be condescending or weird, and yes, that's a hell of dumb thing to say in an ad...at least she didn't put "used as pit bait or in medical research."

Great mom there, hope the kids don't see the ad.

Wonder what she will tell the kids when the dog is gone?
 

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No, your post didn't come off as condescending or weird. Wow, that article is awful! :(

Here are the pet guidelines for Asheville's Freecycle:

Suggested Guidelines for Rehoming a Pet

If you decide you must find a new home for a pet, take your time selecting the new home. Animals are at the mercy of their owners and most likely will not be able to save themselves from a bad placement. We’ve all heard the horrors of animal abusers that get their pet victims from the “free to good home” listings. Besides the need to avoid such a tragic life for our pets, we also need to be sure that even a “good” home is the right home for our furry, feathered, or finned friends.

First, interview prospective owners thoroughly. Don’t be afraid to ask LOTS of questions. If they balk at having to answer questions, consider that a big red flag. People that truly want to love and properly care for a pet will welcome your concern and questioning. During your interview determine if the new home will be a good fit for your pet and its current lifestyle. For instance, if you have a dog that is used to being very active, an apartment-dwelling shut-in would probably not work out at all. However, if you have a calm little lap dog that just can’t seem to get enough attention, that same shut-in would probably be a good possibility. Children (and ages), other pets, and proper containment – all are things to question.

Consider contacting breed-specific rescue groups if your pet is a purebred. Many will not accept a pet directly from an owner, but rather only take in animals from shelters. Even if they will not take your pet they may offer suggestions for finding a proper home.

Be honest about the pet’s shortcomings. If there are behavior problems, health problems or other concerns, say so right up front. This helps the adopter make a good decision and reduces the possibility of the animal being rejected and subjected to yet another placement change. Some behavior problems may not be a problem at all to a different owner. For instance, if your pup were sweet to everyone except the aging family cat, she would probably do just fine in a home with no cats. A pet with a health condition that requires ongoing treatment might be a financial burden to one person, but not a problem to another with more means or access to vet discounts.

Visit the prospective adoptive home without the pet. If this is not allowed, BIG RED FLAG. Some of the folks that are snagging free pets for use as bait (for fighting dogs), lab research or other dreadful acts have become quite good at “playing the game,” and will even bring along a child to make it seem like a wonderful family adoption. However, they usually aren’t quite so open to a home visit. Remember, your pet is counting on you to make a good choice. Keep in mind your own safety when visiting the home of a stranger.

Ask for and check a veterinarian reference. Discuss health needs, current vaccinations and spaying/neutering. If at all possible, have your pet spayed or neutered prior to having them placed in another home, just so you can be sure it won’t be used for breeding. Discuss nutritional needs of the pet and activity level.

When you have decided on a new home for your pet, ask for and record identification information from the new owner. Consider having the new owner sign a contract with specific points of agreement regarding care, housing, visitation, etc. Give the new owner your contact information so that they can return the animal to you if the home doesn’t work out for some reason.

Help your pet make the transition to the new home, which is especially difficult for older pets. Provide a supply of the pet’s current food and advise the new owner of the brand. Sudden dietary changes are stressful to an animal. Also send along the pet’s favorite bedding and toys so it will have some familiar comfort items.

By taking your time and checking out the new owners, you’ll be able to ease your mind and be relatively sure that your friend is happy, safe and loved.
Granted, these guidelines do have some good information, but I still don't think animals should be allowed on Freecycle at all. "Freecycle(TM) provides individuals and non-profits ... an electronic forum to 'recycle' unwanted items. One person's trash can truly be another's treasure!" according to the main page. Of course, I guess to most people, animals are just like any other material possession - if you get tired of it, junk it! :|
 

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Kristen Cabe said:
if you get tired of it, junk it! :|
Nice commentary on the state of people and their animals today.

You folks are making me dread my next trip back to the motherland (Piedmont area in NC!)!
 

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Yep, just the response I was expecting to get:

my husband and I want to breed our male sheperd

Kristen wrote:

Hi! I was just wondering why you were looking for a female thats not
spayed.
Now I have to bite my tongue and not reply back! :-#
 

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Kristen Cabe said:
Yep, just the response I was expecting to get:

my husband and I want to breed our male sheperd

Kristen wrote:

Hi! I was just wondering why you were looking for a female thats not
spayed.
Now I have to bite my tongue and not reply back! :-#
Ummm...at least she got a little closer to teh correct spelling of shepherd this time????

Why does this not surprise me? How about you send that nice article on teh cost of breeding a litter from Canadian great dane breeder that was on teh other forum about a week ago? I think it summed it up nicely...
 

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I sent her back a list of questions about her male, and how long she's been involved with shepherds, and just general stuff (as if I might have a female for her), just to see if she would respond. If she doesn't, I'll definately send that thing you referred to, but if she does, I'll have to be a little more careful in my approach. I don't want to get banned from Freecycle because I upset this idiot woman. :roll:
 

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I sent her back a list of questions about her male, and how long she's been involved with shepherds, and just general stuff (as if I might have a female for her), just to see if she would respond. If she doesn't, I'll definately send that thing you referred to, but if she does, I'll have to be a little more careful in my approach. I don't want to get banned from Freecycle because I upset this idiot woman. :roll:
Get banned, and keep all the documentation. You have a nice little story for the news stations. Seriously. They'll eat this kind of thing up, investigative reporting on abusive animal stuff makes for great TV. Or send it out to the animal rights groups in the NC college system. Again, they eat it up, and you'd generate GOOD publicity about this nonsense.
 
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