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Thanks guys ---> to everyone who replied. Good discussion on training here.

Bob, that's looking a lot like how I work on stays. I agree about either adding in distance OR duration OR distractions but I only raise one at a time.

100% agree on adding one at a time.

I've seen a LB video where a 12 wk old pup is taught the stay with markers on it's "spot". (Plastic feed pan turned upside down".

I've just started working my almost 8 yr old GSD on a low box. Seems like a ton can be done if the dog understands markers. He does.

I think it will be a big help because he's so excitable.

My 11 yr old GSD is just a matter of reading him the directions and he just does what I ask.
 

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I don't think one is more important than the other. The details are what bring together the big picture. Training is all about stacking one foundation on another and connecting them from. If you want a solid "big picture" you have to build up to it with solid "detail" work.
 
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