[Patrick Murray]

Anybody?

 

[Mike Schoonbrood]

Anybody?

Ask him politely? :lol:

 

[Connie Sutherland]

Anybody?

Crooked as in one haunch is higher, or his body leans, or his head is tilted.....? Or he isn't facing properly?

 

[Connie Sutherland]

Anybody?

Well, I was gonna talk about physically using your hands to correct the sit, but check this out:
http://www.shirleychong.com/keepers/archives/sits.txt

From this part:
QUOTE:
It is my opinion that allowing the dog to sit crooked then adjusting his
position by hand does nothing to \"teach\" the dog the difference between
crooked and straight sits. END QUOTE

 

[Mike Schoonbrood]

If I remember correctly from watching Jake, the dog doesn't sit properly by Patricks side, but rather his paws where they should be but his butt too far to the left of the handler, so the dog isn't facing straight forward but rather diagonally.

Cujo has a, what I call, \"relaxed down\", his hips sideways rather than being ready to jump up, I gave up trying to fix it.

 

[Bob Scott]

From Mike's description, the dog sounds like he's trying to face PatricK. (Butt too far to the left of handler). Use a treat to guide the dog straing. As he starts his sit, hold the treat over the left side of his face, and make a SLIGHT motion left. The dog's head will follow the treat, and bring the butt in closer. When the butt hits the ground, IN THE CORRECT POSITION, bring the treat up to your face, and then directly to the dog. This teaches the dog to keep focus on your eyes in order to get rewarded.

 

[Jerry Lyda]

Crooked sit.

What I do is this. When the dog is at his crooked sit and I have the leash on him, I take a step back with my left foot only. At the same time I pull the dog back, after he is headed in the other direction I turn him foward again and bring my left foot back to it's original possition and say Heel at the same time. When his shoulder is even with your leg say Sit. If he's not straight do it all again. He'll get tired of doing it over and over and he will get it right. Then you say, GOOD BOY.

 

[Bob Scott]

Also, heel along side a fence or wall. The dog can't turn out.

 

[Jeff Oehlsen]

I find I can pretty much avoid the problem by not teaching sit in front of me, I only teach it out front at a later date.



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[Patrick Murray]

Thanks Gents!

 

[Dana McMahan]

I've done two ways... one is sort of flanking the dog whenever he goes to sit crooked (before his butt even hits the ground). I had a GSD that was really exaggerated in his crooked sit, so I started flaking him to pull him in. He got sick of that real quick and just started fixing it himself. I wouldn't do this with an overly soft dog, young dog, or extremely hard dog who'll bite you. But for him, he was kind of an average joe,happy go lucky and it only took 3-4 times before he got it.

The other way was heeling along side a wall which works great in all until you run out of wall. At a seminar I was at, the guy said to use a chair. You can use it with you anywhere on the field. Set up several chairs so you build the habit and then start weaning off the chair to something smaller (chute ... board, etc).

Food is also a good manipulator but I find this most effective if your teaching the foundation of the heeling, to just teach a correct, straight sit as part of heeling. If I have a dog that I'm able to teach heeling with food, I just make sure when I'm going to stop, I manipulate my hand (the dog's head) so that his butt goes straight every time. Works great if you have a dog thats really into the food. From my clients over the last, eh, 8 months, I've had 2 dogs that this worked for. The rest didn't have enough food drive and manipulating the food made them loose interest.

As far as crooked sits where their leaning or their legs are sloppy, on the Anne Silverton tape (gosh that doesn't sound like the right name.... Competitive AKC Novice, Open, Utility from the CTS) .... she actually fixes her dogs legs by physically placing the legs. She does this on sit stays or if the dog is sitting by her side. If I remember correctly she uses a cue word and then eventually teaches them to square themselves up.