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Mike, I looked at two of them about a month ago. The guy was demonstrating them to me. I was in the market for some patrol dogs. I don't know that much about them, but to me they looked like a wire-haired pit bull. Had good size to them. Both of them had incredible bites and were well controlled. Knowing our department wouldn't allow me to purchase them, (it's a perception issue) I didn't do a lot of research on them.

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The other dog forum had a discussion on them awhile back. You may want to use their search forum. Comment went everywhere from good to trying to reinvent the wheel.
I think the breeder/developer is somewhere in the SE US.
 

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Here's a link to the kennel that claims to have begun the breed:
Donovan K-9
 

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I've watched several video clips of them, there is so much variance in the different lines that he breeds, personally I would prefer a straight forward KNPV Dutch Shepherd, you know exactly what you get and the dogs are generally not easily distracted by other dogs, there is ltos fo Pit Bull blood in Donovan Pinschers.
 

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The daughter of one of my fellow CCDSA members has one. It's a fairly impressive dog. He has a slighter build than a APBT but stands taller. The head looks like a Mal and a APBT played some Barry White late one night. I've only met the one but he is very controlled and not as frantic as some Pits that I've worked with. Much more calm but very fast dog. It would be a breed that would be interesting if it ever took hold and had a large scale breeding. I doubt I would split from my Malinois but definitely would be a good dog to have in the working dog ranks.
 

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cant get his site to work, however i saw a pic of a DH x Pit or something similar it just looked like a DH on steroids.... however they have a fetish for cropping ears which looks terrible
 

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The daughter of one of my fellow CCDSA members has one. It's a fairly impressive dog. He has a slighter build than a APBT but stands taller. The head looks like a Mal and a APBT played some Barry White late one night. I've only met the one but he is very controlled and not as frantic as some Pits that I've worked with. Much more calm but very fast dog. It would be a breed that would be interesting if it ever took hold and had a large scale breeding. I doubt I would split from my Malinois but definitely would be a good dog to have in the working dog ranks.
Actually, Carver is a Donovan Pinscher/American Bulldog.
An awesome dog, he is. :cool:
 

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Actually, Carver is a Donovan Pinscher/American Bulldog.
An awesome dog, he is. :cool:

I think Donovan refers to these as a Proto Donovan
Where he takes a "Donovan Pinscher" and breeds back to a foundation stock dog. Chris Carr trialed one a few years ago.
Kyle Sprag has/had? a nice proto donovan. A DP bred back to a Malinois. As far as new breeds. I think the DP is 10x better then any bandogge I've seen. "Almost" as good as Donovan thinks they are :)
 

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Actually, Carver is a Donovan Pinscher/American Bulldog.
An awesome dog, he is. :cool:
Damn you Kris and correcting me!!! ](*,) ah alright, i was struggling to remember his name. What's up with them, I haven't seen them since last year. Why don't we have club tomorrow??? I missed last week because of work.
 

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hey mike! my name is Ricky we spoke before. I trai with Ron Marshall and a guy that train with us has a few. this is a very impressive dog. call Ron and ask him about it.
 

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sounds to me like trying to recreate the KNPV program, without the time spent, numbers of dogs used, quality of dogs, and testing
 

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I don't see why so many people take offense to others working with an off breed. I'm sure they are not thinking that this is the dog of the future so to speak. Maybe some I dunno but every breed of every type has breeds that think there line is the best out there weather of not they actually have the back ground to prove such. But back on my topic I just don't see why when some one says what about working this dog why not. It's worth a try imo.
 

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I guess you have a point there until it has a breed standard and registration label it isn't a breed either imo. But I still don't see the harm in working a mut either. LOL I still get so tired of trying to descrbibe the difference between the apbt and the ab. It's not like I'm trying to down the apbt just trying to distinguish the two breeds for people. Kinda off topic but for some reason that popped in my head. LOL
 

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Dominick Donovan is from Long Island, New York. Dp's are comprised of DS, Malinios,APBT, Boxer, American Bulldog.The foundation DS was a KNPV 1 titled dog named raymond. Raymond was a very civil DS who liked to come up the leash when outed or failed to go over the paisade. I owned a raymond granddaughter. She was all prey with poor enviormental nerves. I live on Long Island and when I wanted a new puppy I called Mike Suttle, drove down to his place and picked out a DS X MH out of ruddie pegge jr. If you want a cross bred dog, stick with a KNPV DS X MH.
 
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