Doing what it was bred to do.

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Bob Scott

Discussion Starter · Sep 17, 2006

Maybe not politically correct, but this is what terrier heart/gameness/fightdrive is all about.
the BT just ran around having fun till the bull put the matador on the ground.
Those here who are intelligent enough to speak two languages, "What the he(( are they saying"?

:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5lnUwkkWrk

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Tiago Fontes

· #41 · Dec 8, 2013

maggie fraser said:
Now then, how hard was that ?

BTW, I could break that article into pieces and present another side of the story, but it would be time consuming and possibly pointless, given my audience.

To answer your question:

It was very easy. No more bullfighting for me...the internet article made me realize my whole existence was imoral!

Thank you ;-)

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maggie fraser

· #42 · Dec 8, 2013

Tiago Fontes said:
BTW, I could break that article into pieces and present another side of the story, but it would be time consuming and possibly pointless, given my audience.

To answer your question:

It was very easy. No more bullfighting for me...the internet article made me realize my whole existence was imoral!

Thank you ;-)

You're very welcome. Friends again?

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Tiago Fontes

· #43 · Dec 8, 2013

More than ever... Given my newly acquired moral purity!

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maggie fraser

· #44 · Dec 8, 2013

tiago fontes said:
more than ever... Given my newly acquired moral purity!

\\:d/

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Derek Milliken

· #45 · Dec 9, 2013

http://http://youtu.be/U1L-8xLI_5c

Every bit of the balls and courage, with none of the bloodshed.

That said, I'm not a fan of bullfighting, am a fan of PBR and rodeo, and do love to see a top quality dog endure and come through the pressure of a good decoy. Lots of people would call my preferences cruel. Lots of people would call it a difference of degrees, but fundamentally the same.
People in glass houses......

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Haz Othman

· #46 · Dec 9, 2013

AR crazies dont care if its bull fighting or dog sport. Its all the same to them, so I just cant give these organizations the time of day.

I also question the global warming claim made in that article, as that is most defintiely not a settled science.

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rick smith

· #47 · Dec 9, 2013

another interesting thread that is heating up as it gets more philosophical

anyway, my dog training sure doesn't keep the bread on the table here. and since we also teach flamenco besides classical ballet here at our place, bullfighting has been a topic thru the years. as a kid in SoCal, i watched bullfighting on our mexican TV channel 34 (Paco Camino era). quality wasn't nearly as high as in Spain and a lot of fights ended sloppy and were clumsy compared to watching the "great ones" fight bulls over in Spain

WTH ... maybe i think i'll start a thread on dog fighting

(which you all probably know is legal in Japan)
- anyone been to one here ?
- do you think it is an animal rights issue ?

anyway, the point of my post is that i take BIG offense when anyone tries to decide what is an animal rights issue and what isn't. to me that is arrogant.
- imo, kicking a dog in the ribs that pisses me off or bit me IS an animal rights issue, and i'll admit i have been guilty of that
- imo, a LEO making a bad move that results in his K9 getting killed is also an animal rights issue to me
- imo fighting dogs by scumbags who want to gamble and watch one bad ass pit mix rip up another bad ass pit mix is an animal rights issue
- imo breeding a dog to look like some kind of funny faced human is an animal rights issue

to me they are all examples of animal abuse, but in reality is there is NO DAMN thing as animal abuse because the animals have ZERO voice in ANY animal abuse conversation. we can't ask them ad they aren't participating and have no voice
- same goes for bull fighting ](*,)

- and imo, rationalizing either side using cultural differences is just a way to avoid the issue directly
- and since people's opinions won't change during an online discussion, why even bother trying ???

disclaimers :
- i don't support PETA
- i DO support LE and the military using dogs to hurt people
- i do care about how all animals feel even tho i don't understand exactly how that happens or how to know when the line gets crossed and we are abusing them when we shouldn't be

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Catherine Gervin

· #48 · Dec 9, 2013

Tiago Fontes said:
I will "whatever" the rest of your post simply because I do not care about your feelings on bullfighting, nor do I really care about changing your views. I only commented when you said my "pals" should be "sterilized", because, truth be told, that is way too silly.

As far as my credibility... Let me tell you something:

I never accept things just because they were said by X,Y,Z person. I could care less if Ghandi, Mandela, Mother Teresa, came up with the sentence.

I find the quote ridiculous. That is my personal opinion, whether I have credibility before you or not.

Can you live with the fact that I find Ghandi's quote ridiculous? I mean, am I allowed to find it ridiculous? In a free world, I should be able to say it's ridiculous...whether my statement is ridiculous itself or NOT.

Kindest regards,

Tiago

actually you did not come up with anything to say that wasn't announcing itself before you bothered...the world is not free, bub, and the status of your statement was never something i had to question. keep your regards and your shabby blood sport entertainment and keep 'em FAAARRRRR away from me and mine, okey dokey?

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Tiago Fontes

· #49 · Dec 9, 2013

Ok Catherine, I will be sure to keep my "regards and shabby blood sport entertainment" away from you...lol

No worries.

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Harrison Graham

· #50 · Dec 16, 2013

Tiago Fontes said:
What makes you state this?

I can accept you being against it...but determining the participant's intelligence level seems to be a bit too much.

Would you like to question my intelectual capacity? Especially, since I enjoy and attend bullfights in my country, because it is legal. I also have very good friends who are bull fighting bull breeders...

Just curious...

The use of animals in entertainment, such as bullfighting, is inherently unethical and not morally justifiable.

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Tiago Fontes

· #51 · Dec 17, 2013

Harrison Graham said:
The use of animals in entertainment, such as bullfighting, is inherently unethical and not morally justifiable.

Ok.

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Matt Vandart

· #52 · Dec 17, 2013

It's two different dogs.

EBT's are the hardest dogs on this planet, bar none. Bumpy got amongst a herd of marsh horses once (they are nasty wild horses) and took a right kicking and stomping. I had to go in and drag her out.
Nothing wrong with her, didn't even need a vet trip.

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