[Stacia Porter]

There are a lot of different "designer dogs", mixed breed dogs that are now being recognized as breeds.
Here are a few that REALLY get under my skin:
Shepadoodle (GSD x poodle)
Malipoo (Malinois x poodle)
Rott-a-poo (Rottie x poodle)
All of these mixes (and others un-mentioned) are bred in 3 different sizes, based on the poodle. Toy, Miniature, and Standard.
I just think this is plain WRONG, but worse is that these dogs are soon going to be able to be registered with various small breed registries in the US. These dogs are MUTTS from uncertain backgrounds and should NOT be bred! (IMHO)
What do you think?

I am sooooooooooooooooooo with you on this one Sarah. Here was my long relpy to the designer dog breeding site you postd in the thread in the Canine Lounge. I think it pretty well covers my issues with this practice:

Speaking of Shepadoodles, here is a gallery following one from a few weeks to 6 months.
http://www.northernskykennels.com/PICTURESSHEPADOODLES.html

I just have to comment (vent) some more about "Northern Sky Kennels." After perusing her site I have the following issues:

1. Her "shepherds" look awful. She says one is from "champion German bloodlines," yet fails to provide any of their pedigrees.

2. Her "labradoodles." Both parents are STILL PUPPIES. She bred a yellow lab to a BROWN poodle (is that even a poodle color? I thought htey were black, apricot, cream, and white, and grey when they get older). Both are just over a year old!

3. They charge more for their "shepadoodles" and "labradoodles" than they do for their AKC registered cocker spaniels! They also say they "charge accordingly" for unusual colors or markings (read MORE MONEY FOR FAULTS).

4. Cocoa the badly bred 1 year old Standard Poodle is ALSO the father of the shepadoodle puppies. He's a busy poodle. Gaia, their mother, is ALSO only a year old. These people are breeding PUPPIES.

5. They have a picture of a puppy just born in January of 2006 with the caption "Future Mother" over her. YUCK.

6. Not one dog has any evidence of health certification, no show titles on any one of them, no working titles on teh working dogs. They apparently just pop out litters.

7. What the heck is an "APR" registration?

8. The list of “future litters” is daunting. Again: Cocoa the standard poodle is one busy boy. And how on earth are they CKC registering the Labradoodles? CKC accepts this as a breed?

9. All of the pictures of the dogs are shot while they’re in motion. Leads me to believe they are also not bothering to obedience train the dogs since it would be fairly easy to get good shots of each dog if they were (in a sit stay, down stay, stand stay, whatever).

10. And the biggest issue: you can pay them through PayPal by submitting the “caption” under the picture of the dog you want in the subject line…hmmmmmmmmmm.

11. Go check out their “customer feedback” page. On one of the shepadoodles it says, “Hannah is doing great at puppy class. She learns quickly and we are hoping she will grow out of submissive urination and jumping. They say she will…” And the first one “if the labradoodle breed is right for our family.” It isn’t a breed people!!! It’s a really expensive MUTT. You can go find one in a shelter and pay the $20-85 adoption fee...

I'm sure there's more I could point out but I'm preaching to the choir here and my stomach is severely turned. YUCK YUCK YUCK.

 

[Stacia Porter]

Not that I'm a poodle fancier, but there are brown poodles, and I think the APR is the American Poodle Registry. Guessing.

I found it: APR stands for American Purebred Registry.

And apparently brown is a recognized color for poodles. OH, and Cocoa is their only poodle, apparently purchased for the purpose of creating their "doodle" dogs.

 

[Stacia Porter]

ooooops, I meant Stacia!

Hey, I consider it a complement! I have risen to the writing prowress of the great Connie -- enough to be mistaken for her! It's an honor :wink: .

 

[Stacia Porter]

David, you are right, but most breeds seem to have started out with SOME purpose, SOME improvement. Those people that breed those doodle things claim it's to get the non-shedding/no allergies aspect, but most of the pups will be shedding by adulthood because of the mix. Such a scam. Such CROOKS!!!

I guess people are people & will forever be buying certain dog breeds just because they are the "in" thing, just as so many buy dogs on an "impulse". It's just so wrong.

I guess other people will continue to "feed" the crazies by mass producing these mistakes. It's just so heartless.

I think it's the same as the chicken/egg debate. All I know for sure, is it's these breeders & owners who don't give a damn & have no problem with throwing dogs away like yesterdays' trash!

I have to agree with Susan. When a breeder is mixing in order to achieve a real goal (like working toward improving drives for work, or structure of the dog, or temperment) that's one thing. But these poodle mixes? I swear to goodness it's the NAME people are buying. Just so they can say they have a maltipoo, a labradoodle, beagipoo or whatever. These breeders have no real goal in mind, no breeding ethics, and no respect for the animals. If they did, would they be breeding PUPPIES? Not likely.

I have let the experienced breeders who have tried the labrador/standard poodle cross in order to reduce allergic reactions in people needing service dogs slide...but these greedy breeders banking on teh "in"ness of poodle breeds? No way! If they were repsonible, ethical individuals active in the world of dog fancy who proved and health tested their stock and could explain their breeding goals, I wouldn't be even 80% as bothered as I am.

Nonetheless, good point David. All breeds have started out by people mixing others...

 

[Stacia Porter]

I was outside with my neighbor who owns a lab mix yesterday. A guy walked by being pulled down teh street by a 40-ish pound black, long haired dog. My neighbor asked him what kind of dog it was. He wrinkled his face up and said, "Well, she's a LABRADOODLE of course!"

And before I could stop myself I said, "Who are you looking at like that? "Labradoodle" isn't a breed dumba$$!" Whoooops. But he was being such a butt and he needs some serious education on how to handle a dog. Needless to say every time he's walked by my house he's shot it a look of disgust lol.

It amazes me that people think these are breeds! THEY'RE MUTTS!

I suppose I should just get with the program nad start calling my Abbie a Bassowgle (Basset/Chow/Beagle)? If everyone else gets to make thier overpriced mutts sound chic I wanna make my shelter dogs sound cool, too! 8)