[Tim Martens]

here is our performance from last weekend's trial. not perfect, but not bad. i was happy overall with the results. 60 teams competed. mostly from the arizona area. a few cali dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spjWMJktgI8

 

[Connie Sutherland]

You deserved the trophies. Congrats!

 

[Tim Martens]

thanks connie

 

[Lacey Vessell]

WTG Tim! I like the scenario's - a little more "street like" then some of the things I've encountered in the national certs Congrats again!

 

[Tim Martens]

WTG Tim! I like the scenario's - a little more "street like" then some of the things I've encountered in the national certs Congrats again!

thanks lacey. yeah, this is the best trial i've been to. the trials around here are more like a SchH trial in that when you're doing OB, you're doing OB and nothing else. when you're doing the agility, you're doing the agility and nothing else. this trial combines various tasks in each event. take the area search. the timer started when you released your dog. it stopped when you're dog met you at the first base line. during that time, the dog has to bite and out, so if you have to go up and choke your dog off, obviously you're losing time. or take the tactical challenge course. multiple bite scenarios. all done off leash.

it's just a real nice trial. we had a great time. i'm looking forward to next year.

 

[David Frost]

Tim, I liked the exercises. I think the dog did very well. Two things I particularly enjoyed seeing;

1. Although the heel was a bit loose, it was not that "stare at the handler" while walking. I know it's predominant in sports, but not on the street.

2. Out/heel, damn I like that. No bark and hold.

Overall, I think it was a very solid performance. Congratulations.

What I'd like to see in a trial though, when it comes to pure competition is a decoy that doesn't stop fighting when the dog is given out.

DFrost

 

[Amber Scott Dyer]

I loved it. Esp. the kiddie pool send. AWESOME.

P.s. his call off is beautiful!

 

[Tim Martens]

Tim, I liked the exercises. I think the dog did very well. Two things I particularly enjoyed seeing;

1. Although the heel was a bit loose, it was not that "stare at the handler" while walking. I know it's predominant in sports, but not on the street.

2. Out/heel, damn I like that. No bark and hold.

Overall, I think it was a very solid performance. Congratulations.

What I'd like to see in a trial though, when it comes to pure competition is a decoy that doesn't stop fighting when the dog is given out.

DFrost

as far as the heel, i KNOW that it is 100% my fault. EVERY dog i've had forges while heeling. 3 dogs is more than a coincidence. we didn't do anything to specifically prepare for this trial. no extra OB. no extra control work. the only thing i would say we did was a few extra runs on the obstacle course (which didn't come into play as it turned out). this is pretty much my dog in working condition.

i agree with you on outting the dog on a suspect that is still fighting or at least isn't perfectly froze up. it most definitely doesn't go down that way on the street.

back to the heeling...i do like some focus on the handler. not the locked in stare at the handler the entire time, but the dog should "check in" with the handler from time to time. the problem with a dog SO focused on the handler is the dog will have a harder time getting "radar lock" on the suspect. i'm sure that's what you're referring to.

 

[Connie Sutherland]

.... back to the heeling...i do like some focus on the handler. not the locked in stare at the handler the entire time, but the dog should "check in" with the handler from time to time. the problem with a dog SO focused on the handler is the dog will have a harder time getting "radar lock" on the suspect. i'm sure that's what you're referring to.

I thought his focus on you was great..... I know I already said this in a PM, but anyway: to me, it looked perfectly halfway between the two extremes of lack of attention to the handler and that SchH gaze (which I admit I like, but this is a PSD :lol: ).

 

[Bob Scott]

Very nice!

 

[Konnie Hein]

Thanks for sharing!

Any idea where other videos of other competitors might be posted? I think it would be neat to see how some of the other dogs performed.

I noticed in this trial that the decoys don't seem to put too much pressure on the dogs (except for the water hose). I also didn't see any of the decoys trying to escape (which I think would be a typical scenario for a PSD on the street). Is this pretty normal for PSD trials? If so, why?

 

[David Frost]

<<<<<i'm sure that's what you're referring to.>>>>

That's exactly what I referring too.

I wasn't being critical of your performance, you do understand that right?
It was just an observation on the heel. Which by the way, in my experience is fairly common.

DFrost

 

[Selena van Leeuwen]

I really like the kiddypool thing send!!

Congrats on your trophies (or is it trophy´s?)

 

[susan tuck]

Very nice, Tim! Thanks for sharing the video.

 

[Tim Martens]

<<<<<i'm sure that's what you're referring to.>>>>

That's exactly what I referring too.

I wasn't being critical of your performance, you do understand that right?
It was just an observation on the heel. Which by the way, in my experience is fairly common.

DFrost

no worries. i know what you meant.

 

[Dan Reiter]

Very!!!!!!!! nice I like the confidence he shows and willingness to work and respond to handler. You two show a great partnership.

Dan Reiter

 

[Tim Martens]

thanks dan.

konnie, as far as pressure, i think the reason you don't see too much of it at police dog trials is because of public perception. i don't think you'll ever see stick hits at a PSD trial. as far as environmental stuff, i've seen some of it at trials before. this one didn't have too much of that. i guess the thing is, these trials aren't really designed to be a test for the dogs. that stuff SHOULD be in the selection testing/maintenance training. the trials are really for the public and to judge the dogs control work for the most part. i think. i dunno...

 

[Jerry Lyda]

Question for David, Why would you want to out a dog if the decoy ( bad guy ) is still fighting?

 

[Jerry Lyda]

Sorry meant to say too, Nice video Tim.

 

[Simon Mellick]

Question for David, Why would you want to out a dog if the decoy ( bad guy ) is still fighting?

Even innocent people might be inclined to fight with a police dog if it was latched on.