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How do you guys teach the recall while retrieving the dumbbell so the dog sits really close to you? My boy is always a good half a foot or foot away when sitting.
 

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leave a tab/short lead on his collar - prong collar or choke depending on what he responds to - as he's coming in to the front (before he settles into a sit completely) take the tab under his chin (you can help him not drop the dumbbell this way too), and gently "pop" the tab, while backing up a step or three - saying "Heir, heir" and encouraging him to come closer, come to a stop just as he's sitting closer to you - then "out" and reward immediately. Repeat, repeat, repeat. While you're doing this, be aware of your body posture, don't lean over him or have your head down so much that you're glaring in his face. Stand up straight (or even tip yourself back a little bit) and use your eyes, not your whole head/shoulders, to look down at him. Smile, encourage him with your body language to come closer.

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I do the same thing but I don't use tab. If the dog is to slow on the recall I start jogging backwards saying heir to speed up the dog and then one praise like good. You can see the dog getting more excited about it by doing this and they will come right to you fast and then sit right up on you. If the sit is still not as close as you want then just take a couple steps back saying heir and as the dogs sits where you want say good and step back again with the heir command and after the dog does it right again then release with a big praise. All this is doing is getting the dog to understand want you want him to do and he is doing it right on his own with no corrections. Repeat doing this to give the dog a clear understanding of what he is supposed to do and he will do it the correct way with excitement.
 

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How close should they be? Annie knows to "reset" (come closer) when I say "no" and wave her in, but I don't know how close I should be training to...
 

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Their nose should be right at your belt buckle (unless you're shorter than at your belly!) Have them come in close enough so that when they sit in front of you their head is forced to look straight up at you.
 

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jay lyda said:
Their nose should be right at your belt buckle (unless you're shorter than at your belly!) Have them come in close enough so that when they sit in front of you their head is forced to look straight up at you.
What do the dudes with "dicdo disease" do? :lol::lol: I've seen a few of them on the field with this horrible affliction.

So Jay and others...does training in this way mess up a dog you might train for protection/police etc. B&H? You definitely don't want the dog to do a B&H that close to somebody that might fight back, right? Just wondering how and if you can really differentiate it.
 

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Woody Taylor said:
jay lyda said:
Their nose should be right at your belt buckle (unless you're shorter than at your belly!) Have them come in close enough so that when they sit in front of you their head is forced to look straight up at you.
What do the dudes with "dicdo disease" do? :lol::lol: I've seen a few of them on the field with this horrible affliction.

So Jay and others...does training in this way mess up a dog you might train for protection/police etc. B&H? You definitely don't want the dog to do a B&H that close to somebody that might fight back, right? Just wondering how and if you can really differentiate it.
My preferrence is to back away till the dog catches up with me. The tug on the short tab works ( I used it for years) but it can also creat an avoidance with some dogs if the timing isn't just right.
"Why should I get clost to him/her? "I'm just gonna get jerked on"!

There is no connectioin in the dog's mind between a close "hier" or "bring" and it's proximoty in the B&H.
Different command, different circumstances all together.
 

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Jerry Lyda said:
Woody, the recall to a front sit is not the same exercise as the bark and hold. Taught different.
I understand, just wondering if positionally, in sport B&H, dual-purpose (PP/Sch, for example) dogs had to think through things carefully on an engagement on a "real threat." I assumed you taught the two with different commands/in (initially) different drives/in different environments, but curious to hear input.

Thanks.
 
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