Breda FCI

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Mike Schoonbrood

Discussion Starter · Sep 22, 2006

When Jerry posted the results for FCI Breda 2006 championships I was looking at which dog scored the highest this year and looked up the kennel that malinois came from, I thought this video on their site was pretty cool, even my non-dog friends enjoyed watching it, it's 27mb so I hope you have cable/DSL

http://www.vom-adlerauge.de/downloads/alphawmbreda2005.wmv

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Tim Martens

· #3 · Sep 23, 2006

question 1: for $10 can anyone tell me what the music is from?

now for a serious question...

question 2: in SchH does the dog lose points if the handler has to give a verbal out (is the dog supposed to self out)?

question 3: if the dog bites the guys leg when he pulls that sleeve through the leg crap does the dog lose points?

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Tim Martens

· #5 · Sep 23, 2006

susan tuck said:
1. Don't know (shoot, could have used 10 bucks)
2. No points lost when you tell your dog to Aus (unless he/she doesn't)
3. No leg bites in sch!!! :lol:

i know there are no leg bites, but when the helper pulls that stupid stuff, he's asking to get bit in the leg. i imagine that those high level schH dogs are so sleeve fixated that it probably doesn't matter, but it hardly seems fair to pull that matador stuff when the dog is supposed to bite the sleeve...

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Tim Martens

· #10 · Sep 24, 2006

Andres Martin said:
if the dog bites the guys leg when he pulls that sleeve through the leg crap does the dog lose points?

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I can't see the helper pulling the sleeve through his leg. What I do see though, is very agile helper work. The helper changes foot placement, and has the right foot forward; he has already seen the dog will come in a bit left of center of mass. His weight is on his right leg, which allows his left to come up easily, and he safely absorbs the dog's impact. It's quite hard to absorb a dog that comes in left of center of mass, with a left sleeve on, when the dog comes in low"ish" and very fast...and make it look good. He got his left leg out of the dog's way in a hurry.

The first helper, in contrast, is a HARD helper. He does not get out of the way.

sorry. i'm not buying it. he could have just as easily spun around (as every other decoy does on an off center hit). i'd be willing to bet that this wasn't the first time this helper has done that and that it is his "thing". the guy is hot dogging it. plain and simple...

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Tim Martens

· #13 · Sep 24, 2006

Andres Martin said:
His weight is on his right leg, which allows his left to come up easily, and he safely absorbs the dog's impact.

i've watched this clip probably 10 times now. pause the clip at the 2:58 mark. you can clearly see his left leg is PLANTED when the dog contacts him. any damage from a "crash" would have already been done. i still say that he swings his left leg up for show.

i do however retract the statement that he "put the sleeve through his legs". i can see what he was trying to do or what he was thinking. he just chose the "showy" way of doing it. he could have just as easily spun when he lands on his right leg...

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Tim Martens

· #18 · Sep 24, 2006

Selena van Leeuwen said:
I see it the same way as Andres does. Dog hits hard, body against decoy. In the slam decoy turns leg away to hold his balance and not hurt the dog. Great decoy imho.

yes, he does a good job of avoiding too much contact with the dog, but what i'm saying is he didn't have to do the "o-lay" and dramatically throw his leg up. ahh. forget it. it appears i'm on an island all by myself on this one. doesn't matter. it's only schH anyway :wink:

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Tim Martens

· #21 · Sep 25, 2006

Bob Scott said:
The music is from the Rocky movie when Rocky fought Ivan Drago the Russian.
My daughter was over and watching the video clip with me. She told me that's the music she runs to on her head set..or whatever you call those new fangled gagets.

YES! specifically it's the music when rocky and drago are training for their fight. +1 for your daughter!

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