I see this older thread but I think I’ll reply anyway
Without real helper training I think you will
do more harm than good I single mistake and you can break a dogs tooth If you can’t “read the “ I hate the term but you need to understand dog drives , why should he do something how should he do it early on I had a hard time finding good helpers. Then I really complicated it by wanting to be the helper myself . Less that I don’t get all the negatives please understand I’ve Al ready heard them all every one said it could not be done yet the very good trainers were doing it . So I attended many seminars watching and learning. I tried back yard stuff but the dog just did not get right into it yes he grabbed the sleeve or what ever was presented but I had seen him do some real serious damage to unskilled helpers. Much like playing football we did tackle drills untill we could hardly get up but come game time we became warriors then the day came with some inter squad pushing and shoving the next round of drills became game time stuff. Some fights broke out over extreme roughness . Thinking some I applied this to the dog training stick hits became a little harder some punching ear boxing some punching close quarter gun shots harder simulated knife attacks just careful use of retaliation we normally used football helmets with plastic face shields it happened suddenly and very to the point mi growled showed teeth an the dog charged full throttle knocking me down I was 245 pounds then good shape he opened his mouth wide and his teeth dug into the face shield crushing it . I was a bit surprised as I YHINK he was I praised him although it was like he was sorry as I got up he came ove and licked my hand kinda like we might do on the football field if things got out of hand . From that day on anyone in a suit or Biden clothes was fair game for an all out attack . I don’t like the “ attack word” but it was all business. I had trained an “ off switch” and the dog seemed to grasp the meaning in serious work. I don’t know if this was the “ right way “ but it worked. Looking back I can see the progression in drive building I believe this is why the eastern block dogs are much preferred as K 9’s. It’s much easier to get to the real drives and easier to recognize them . It’s also very much harder to control them for the inexperienced I can assure you this kind of training is goingvto result in trips to the ER AND UNFORTUNATELY MABE TO THE VET I would never demo this to public or an inexperienced helper person.. probably why I had such a hard time digging this out of good trainers . You might think this would be a very dangerous dog to have around but again the eastern block breeding makes this possible. If I were out walking and you wanted to rough house with me you might get hurt either by me or the dog or both . The bottom line is don’t start this unless you can finish it and you need a good dog .
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