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Old 09-17-2015, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What is your working dogs reward of choice ?? ..

Or what works best as your reward? Say as a motivator for a jump or easy search?

We've all heard of 'ball' drive 'food' drive etc. I know many of these rewards can be used in many different contexts and scenarios. I know many dogs that are OCD over balls and the like while others have a specific toy like a deflated basket ball or rubber chicken that is their #1.

What is your dog's reward of choice? How do you use it best as a tool to further the progression in your training? If you can give some examples that would be helpful.
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Old 09-17-2015, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: What is your working dogs reward of choice ?? ..

Geoff,
Kong on a rope
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Hi Geoff, long time man.If i'm doing bitework & the dog ids doing well i reward quickly with another bite if the teaching the "out" was good .If teaching an OB exercise then i use a 8 inch leather or jute tug.When teaching tracking , & the exercise is going well , i reward with an easier track, with tug find.
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Re: What is your working dogs reward of choice ?? ..

Kong or tug are pretty equal with my older GSD.

Slight edge for the Kong with the younger one.

The Kong, in my use isn't on a rope but tossed for reward.

In addition to rewards I still use both to work drive.

I think it was in a Flinks video where he showed how to let the dog decide it's preference.

Pretty much just hold both up in front of the dog and it will tell you.

My older guy has a hard time moving with his progressively weakening rear legs so all he has to do is bring it to me and give it to me and out on command for a quick "yes" and return.
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Hi Geoff

interesting topic....i've done a lot of experimenting these last few years and my methods have kinda 'morphed' accordingly

my short answer : i mix rewards all the time and change the value up and down a LOT. I'm DEF not a ball only/tug only/food only guy anymore, and have started using a lot more physical praise (in various degrees) than i used to use

i use rewards very differently for a new dog i'm working with, as compared to my own dog ... or a dog that is already trained and used to certain reward schedules

- are you more interested in what types are used, or the methodology for when they are used ?
- for competition, rehab work, or basic companionship ?
- working with your own or training other dogs ?

tried to write a short version, but it got long very fast
assumed you weren't interested in getting into the weeds
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Re: What is your working dogs reward of choice ?? ..

Just looking at what people use in general for general obedience you know more simple things.

I tend to use a kong on a rope or ball on a rope myself for a lot of things and food as a secondary jackpot reward. I guess it depends on the level of excitement or energy I need from the dog. I have used tugs with less success but have had good success with a flat 2 handled leather made by gappay.

My dogs do have kongs in the house for toys and they don't generally have ropes as I'm afraid of ingestion. Nothing builds jaw strength like a a XL black kong being squeezed over and over to build that kung fu grip .. Having them free in the house doesn't affect the 'wow' factor when I use the kong on a rope in training it's still a 'jackpot' reward. As the dog's reward is not just the 'Toy' but the interaction with me and the toy.

Rick and Bob I agree that the dog will tell you what it prefers. Though my thought is it shouldn't really matter to an extent what you use as a reward as long as it interactive with the handler. In reality dogs are opportunistic prey animals. Dogs are not that complicated everything revolves around their hierarchy of life needs and wants. So my thoughts are we can use these as trainers to shape and reinforce behaviours through simple play and using the toy of choice to motivate.

I do love my kongs Mike. Great investment I've had some of them for going on 10 years! Yes Paul I do that FR guard reinforcing technique with my toys as it creates super quick outs. As “There should be joy in the chase, zest in the pursuit.” That type of engagement creates that joy and builds that bond with the dog for sure.
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Re: What is your working dogs reward of choice ?? ..

I tend to use food during the imprinting or shaping stages. Later it could be food, ball, tug, or a good body rub.
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Geoff,
The big advantage I find of the Kong on a rope is that you can have the dog chase it like a ball being thrown,and that the rope adds distance to the throws,but mainly that the whole process continues into a game of tug of war when the dog returns.Prey drive doesn't only include chaseing but also the shaking and killing of the prey.
I agree with Sarah about the imprinting phase and the use of food in lurring.Pups tend to be calmer with food than with toys and therefore learn a new routine easier if it is shown to them in a calm setting.
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Re: What is your working dogs reward of choice ?? ..

We all get off on COCO LOCOS.

A added perk is they go right to sleep after training.😀
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Old 09-18-2015, 07:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Poor Lee,

Every time he posts something about Coco Locos, all I can think is he's crazy for Coco Puffs......
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