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Old 02-13-2017, 07:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: what is a "K9 handler"

i've been told i overthink things but this is one i've never thought about much //LOL//
iíve never thought being a handler required a specific level of skill or was a job related title

i couldn't tell if Khoi was being sarcastic or keeping it simple

i think the term might have developed more because often a psd or mwd is not owned by the peron who works with it. they handle it; not own it. itís similar in the competition world, and maybe why the term ďH.O.T.Ē was coined, although i really donít belive a high level sport dog is ever ONLY trained by its owner.

actually, mwdís donít belong to their handlers at all. mwdís are Ďgovernment propertyí ... but donít remind a handler of that face to face

for me a handler is simply someone trying to do something specific with a dog. i guess i would distinguish a good one as someone who could drop the lead and still keep control, but for me, how competent they are is simply measured by how much control they have

neither have i ever thought a ďK9" was anything more than a ďDOG".
they're called psDís and mwDís for a reasonÖthey arenít called PSK9ís or MWK9ís

- i guess iím just as guilty of choosing words to give implied connotations as anyone else. i define a 'leash holder' as a derogatory term for someone who might think they are being a handler but are more like a moving statue who has little if any control over the dog theyíre with
- and i've referred to my own dog as a K9, dog or mutt; depending on the situation //LOL//
- and i also often use Ďdog loverí in a derogatory way even tho there is nothing wrong with loving dogs

as far as the team aspect ... even a handler prancing around a show ring with a beauty queen has to work as a team, as does an agility handler. for me it applies across the board to include street walking in a crowded public area, not just for mwd/psd handlers

so what is a "helper" as opposed to a "decoy" ??? that one confuses me sometimes

interesting thread !
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Old 02-13-2017, 07:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I guess my last comment sounds like a bitchy statement on a person but when I see stuff like the HUGELY letter T-shirt always starts the audio clip from the first Shrek movie where Shrek first sees the large tower at the castle and says: "Do you think he's compensating for something?"

Which is what started me thinking on exactly what is a K9 handler? I tend to think of it as a technical term like Nicole does but I guess the follow up question is: What qualifies you?

You aren't allowed to call yourself a doctor until you have passed certain criteria. Ground searchers are expected to pass certain standards before they get the rocker. But dog people seem to come out of the gate with this stuff emblazoned on their chest. So is it something you should wait to wear or call yourself until you have passed your certification test? Is it something the unit or agency should bestow when you show that you can do basic skills like reading the dog, lead handling, know basic emergency canine first aid, understand basic scent theory, can detail a plan to deploy the dog based on the current situation, etc.

Is 'K9 handler' something you should earn through knowledge, proficiency, and performance of skills (much like SAR TECH II or a documented mastery of skills) OR is it just something handled out to anyone who shows up the first day with a dog?

Is this designation something that should be held back until such a time as the person has passed a basic course or met certain criteria before they are considered qualified to be called a 'K9 Handler'?
i think you're reading way too much into this on multiple levels. i guess i don't view the title "K9 Handler" with as much reverence as you're giving it. i don't care if someone calls me a K9 handler, K9 officer, K9 cop, dog cop, etc. i just don't care enough about that. i do what i do and whatever title you want to give me, i'm fine with it.

as for the shirts, you work a dog long enough, you acquire many t-shirts. you goto a conference, they give you a shirt. you goto a trial, they give you a shirt. that aunt you only see at christmas? she buys you a K9 shirt. some shirts you buy, some you're given. when you're at training, this is the chance to wear it. i'm not going to wear a shirt with "POLICE K9" plastered all over it when i'm not working for obvious reasons.

sounds like misty gets it.
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Tim, it sounds like you may have shirt troubles. Limited wardrobe maybe?
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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what does that even mean?
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Is English not your first language or is humor entirely lost on you?
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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my first day back and you're coming at me like we're old girlfriends. i don't know you (or have forgotten you in my time away). your "facetiousness" or "humor" doesn't come through on an internet message board, or at least not in these instances. you just come off looking like you're trying (poorly) to troll me.
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thank you for explaining your perception of what you believe my intentions are.

Give it a try though just read back over what you wrote about the shirts. It sounded funny. I was simply making light of what you said. You have my word, I won't make you feel like a girl again.
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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never stated your intentions. only what you come off looking like.

and hmm. why do you take "girlfriend" as a negative? self gender hate much? that's ok now. transitioning is en vogue. there's hope!
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Care to cycle this some more? Or are you done now?
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: what is a "K9 handler"

Time out!

I can vouch that both of you are good people........honest!

This is one of the reasons that discussions on the net don't always indicate intent.

Also why I love the emoticons, funny faces or whatever they are called.

Grow old with me and learn that nothing on the net should be taken to seriously.
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