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Old 06-02-2015, 06:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Raw problems

Recently went back to raw with my Mal after a year on kibble. Although he started looking better very quickly he has had really bad diarrhea. Just feeding a bone in chicken meal in the morning and chicken gizzards in evening. Not feeding too much and I'm about to go back to kibble if I can't get this straight. He hasn't had an accident but it is pure yellow water coming out right now. Any suggestions would be appreciated
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Old 06-02-2015, 07:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you think you might have switched him too fast? I've heard some dogs need a gradual switch to avoid intestinal upset.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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that seems like a lot of gizzards
-too much organ meat has given my dogs the runs. i go light on organs and never feed it daily

if i need to stabilize i give nothing but drumsticks for a week or so and watch the poop
- thigh attached is also a pretty good balance of bone and meat for me

bad runs - i give nothing but chicken necks and the poop gets firm asap
- plus chicken necks are dirt cheap bought in bulk

gizzards/liver/heart etc ... once a month or so
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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by the way, what do you mean by : "feeding a bone in chicken meal" ??

i'm a big fan of making the switch feeding chicken necks for a couple weeks
- the problem i've seen is that people can't find where to buy them in bulk, since they usually aren't found in regular markets

then i go to drumsticks and thighs, and finally cut up whole fryers, bag the parts and feed randomly
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by the way, what do you mean by : "feeding a bone in chicken meal" ??

i'm a big fan of making the switch feeding chicken necks for a couple weeks
- the problem i've seen is that people can't find where to buy them in bulk, since they usually aren't found in regular markets

then i go to drumsticks and thighs, and finally cut up whole fryers, bag the parts and feed randomly
Something such as quarters or wings Rick. Something with the bone in. As far as gizzards, they are not really organs but muscle meat. Never had this problem with him before. Since my first post he had a blowout in his crate. Think I'm done with the raw
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Remove the skin and fat from the chicken. That can easily cause the squirts.
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Remove the skin and fat from the chicken. That can easily cause the squirts.
Agreed. With mine, too much skin can result in the runs.

You might also try a different protein. I'm getting away from chicken in both my own diet and my dogs diets.

Do you have access to turkey or duck necks? Both are good protein sources, they come skinned and both are bigger than chicken necks.

Again, I have seen where some dogs do have some stomach issues when switching all at once, you might consider a more gradual approach.

I'm hoping Connie will chime in, she's my "go to gal" when I have questions about raw feeding. You might want to shoot her a PM.
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Re: Raw problems

Most likely IME: Too much of the new food per meal, or too much fat all at once in the new food.

I start with one thing (usually backs, skinned) and I don't add anything else until I see the good log poops from the skinned backs.

Also, with your dog's gut in an uproar now, I'd fast for a day (plenty of water, of course) and start over, and I'd start with small snack-size meals.
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Most likely IME: Too much of the new food per meal, or too much fat all at once in the new food.

I start with one thing (usually backs, skinned) and I don't add anything else until I see the good log poops from the skinned backs.

Also, with your dog's gut in an uproar now, I'd fast for a day (plenty of water, of course) and start over, and I'd start with small snack-size meals.
I normally start with backs Connie but I can't get them right now without ordering. I have fasted for 24 hours now and I was going to give a small leg quarter skinless but I just let him out and he still has diarrhea, not bad but still loose so I'm hesitant to give him a raw meal
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I normally start with backs Connie but I can't get them right now without ordering. I have fasted for 24 hours now and I was going to give a small leg quarter skinless but I just let him out and he still has diarrhea, not bad but still loose so I'm hesitant to give him a raw meal
Do you have the food he was on? I'd give tiny snack-meals and wait for the poop results to be firm logs before increasing the food (and then after that, going back to raw). And I'd start the raw with small "peeled" snack-size meals.

It may sound like overkill, but diarrhea is much easier to avoid than fix, IME.
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