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Old 05-10-2015, 07:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Life expectancy of certain dog breeds plummeting?

I did question a bit how it was determine that goldens regularly lived to 16 and 17 years old 35 years ago. Just wondering.
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Life expectancy of certain dog breeds plummeting?

It's a proven fact that a neutered male will never get testicular cancer.

I wonder how some genius figured out those results?
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:27 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Life expectancy of certain dog breeds plummeting?

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entropy ?
had to look that up
but it didn't help.....
can you explain how it relates to life expectancy of dog breeds ?
we generally dont test our dogs as ruthlessly anymore imo and due to changes in attitude and modern medicine dogs live that in their natural state wouldn't (shouldn't) and some of those inevitably reproduce.

gradually weakening the breed in question,or pretty much all dogs here in the UK at least.

a bit of pretentious word to use maybe
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:00 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I am against early spay and neutering. I am for responsible dog ownership.
I am against using cowpox for a measles vaccine. Cowpox does not build immunity against measles.
TERRIBLY SORRY--smallpox, not measels.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:05 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Life expectancy of certain dog breeds plummeting?

furthermore--since we are splitting hairs--if responsible dog ownership were prevalent, there wouldn't be puppy mills or a litany of animal cruelty cases which get excused because of ignorance (i didn't know i had to feed the horse, etc) or a need for Nuisance Laws in every town/city/state in the US or billions of unwanted, unintended animals being produced and left to an indifferent fate in animal shelters.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:51 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Life expectancy of certain dog breeds plummeting?

I personally think DCM in dobes is epigenetic.
related note but not for evidence of such, my last dobe died at 11ish if you look up the expected life span of dobes for the year she was born it was about 7.5years. You also have dogs among litters full of DCM deaths who go on strong until very old age and seemingly pass on DCM to loads of their litters. This IMO is why DCM is so hard to research.
Genetics is very interesting an all but I feel the 'science' community seem to look at it as the be all and end all of all answers, I do not believe this to be the case. Scientists like everyone else can get 'locked in' to an almost dogmatic way of thinking despite the methodology and creed(?) of the field where they will say "well if this doesn't answer it there is no answer" type situation. Science can be too objective IMO, it can get blinkered to things that are plain an obvious to the layman because 'science says this'
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:12 PM   #27 (permalink)
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As much as I hate to admit it humans are part of the reason. There are very few pet owners that go out of their way to ensure that their dogs are fed and exercised properly. Most everyone on here probably do not fit into this category however we only make up a very small % of dog owners.

Nowadays Vets actually prescribe medicine the same way Doctors do for humans.They do not cure the root of the problem but instead simply prescribe a drug to try and mask the issue. Example; if a pet owner brings in a dog to the vet that has a super high drive and is releasing the energy into destructive behaviour or what can be considered aggression.Most of these people do not put in the proper training or time needed for exercise. The Vets today are very quick to prescribe a medicine to tranquilize or calm the dog because they think the dog is a threat or liability. Most working dog owners would consider this to be the perfect dog for working.

This is the same with children today. There are more juveniles that are taking prescriptions for ADHD than you could ever imagine. The reason is they have no boundaries, chores, or even go out and actually expend energy exercising. They consume excessive amounts of sugar and sit behind computers, cellphones, or video games all day. Ask any kid what is the most important thing they possess that they could not live without and most would answer their smartphone.

All processed food along with our aggricuture is becoming garbage and loaded with either high fructose corn syrup, starches, grains, or GMO's because it is cheaper to mass produce and is addicting. This all translates into sugar! which is estimated to be as addictive as cocaine. Great for huge companies looking to make money and keep people consuming and buying more of their products. It is estimated that today the average human consumes 150lbs of sugar each year. This has continued to escalate tremendously over the past few decades along with obesity, cancer,alzheimers, cardiovascular disease. Great news for huge drug companies, working with the FDA, that produce prescriptions to combat these diseases.
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