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Old 03-19-2017, 10:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks everybody for the input. She brought him home today. I didn't get too much info. He can be registered AKC miscellaneous class. No health contract, but no strings attached for his papers or breeding rights. I asked about health checks. The breeder did none. Disappointing, but I feel she thought the pup was still worth it which I can see in her case. The sire had hips and other tests on him and far down his line as per the breeder. He had printed out a pedigree, but I left them to look and just listened. KNPV lines I heard. The dam had some famous dog from Mexico in her lines. So anyway, not telling you much, I know. Lots of French Ring titles on both sides.

So the club members liked him. The only negative comment was he didn't bark during bite work yet, but they weren't too concerned. She hasn't paid yet, but I'm sure it's a done deal. I'm happy for her because she has been working her 8 year old lab in our IPO club and some sort of a Shepinois rescue that is mostly defensive. She has worked hard with those two dogs though and the lab actually bites hard. The mal mix has come along, but like my Shepinois, the lack of prey drive is really a bummer. Don't know if she'd be into WED, but I can ask. Thanks again!
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Old 03-19-2017, 10:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I meant WDF.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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No Leslie she is not planning on breeding him. The father of the pup is described as kind of a jerk (I'm not sure exactly what that means, but clearly not for a beginning handler). The pup has drive and seems to roll with all the traveling and owner switching he has had. I think the breeder gave my friend a dog that will be what she can handle. He already focuses on her nicely.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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would be interested to see the pedigree.
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would be interested to see the pedigree.
I would too.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Ok. Think I can do that. Will see them Sunday.
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Old 03-21-2017, 01:43 AM   #17 (permalink)
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if it's either/or Gina, i'd rather see the pup

you weren't here, but we had a jerkoff from OZ that knew every KNPV line in the world and could discuss them with some very knowledgeable KNPV members here. finally got his potential beast and a woody....and bailed

maybe the pup is a potential beast of a stud on paper, but it would be more cool and informative for me to watch him progress via some clips rather than just know 'who he's outa', etc
- i'm assuming he will be in your club ?
- and 5 min to join and 5 min a week is a piece of cake to get here and spoon feed us some eye candy every week
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Get a Mal or GSD for IPO... the DSs talents lie elsewhere in the working dog realm. Best of luck whichever way you roll!
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Hmm...How do you characterise them as fitting another sport better? Thanks
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Old 03-23-2017, 07:28 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Hmm...How do you characterise them as fitting another sport better? Thanks

I didnt say anything about sport ... I said their "talents" .... we use them for LE and MWDs and they excel in that role. When in Rome .... do as the Romans do ... go look at the last 10 years IPO trial results... you wont find those numbers dominated by the DS. I currently have 8 of them here in training and our personal dogs are DSs ....so I know about them.... if I were going to do IPO Id get a mal or a GSD... JMO! Can a DS do IPO? Sure .... a dirt track car can run around a nascar track but can he stay with a nascar in a race? Best of luck with your dog!
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