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Old 03-29-2017, 10:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
Brandon Harper
Ankle Biter
Status: Junior Member
Training: Undecided
Join Date: Dec 2015
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Automatic Out?

Hi everyone, I'm new to protections sports but have a pretty solid foundation in behavior modification and retriever training. I'll be getting a mal puppy in about a week. I plan on doing some sort of protection sport, not 100% sure which one. One thing I've noticed while attending the local club's (IPO) training day is that typically the dogs automatically "out" the sleeve when the helper stops. The handlers still scream "OUT!" but its clear that the command isn't necessary.

What is the consensus of an automatic out, necessary? desirable?

It seems like it could be beneficial in IPO, but not in the suit games since the decoy sometimes moves very slowly while the dog is biting. I could see a grey area which the dog would have to make a decision of when to out and when to continue engaging.

It also seems like a behavior that would be pretty tough to go backwards on. I.e. Once a dog automatically outs, it'd be tough to teach the dog to bite passively.

If it is undesirable, what steps can one take to prevent it? My initial guess would be to create some play LONG before teaching the out in which the dog gets used to biting / tugging without applying energy to the toy.

Please forgive me if I missed something, just a newbie trying to put the bazillion pieces of the puzzle together.
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